of course hammerfall is hella gay but i think in this case you are 'laughing with them.' but you know, they dont really pretend to be anything but a cheesy metal band who love cheesy metal and being metal. i think that's ok. but then, i think heterosexual swedish guys kissing each other is like, fucking culturally elite, so we would probably argue about some shit. anyway, my favorite metal band is opeth, and i also love at the gates and burst. but usually i listen to 'faggot shit' like kent and kashmir and elliot smith so... delete this post?! : P