Has any one lost respect for Nile, Behemoth, Amon Amarth etc?!?

[AsModEe]

I need to buy Scepter of the Ancients fairly soon. The lyrics are the best the Brutal ghrrrrrrajhdjahr genre has to offer.

I've always called that album "cowboy death metal"

 

[Nico]

and the vocalist is the best I have ever heard.

Shame he got the boot a couple years back! He was a champ live, get up on the stage with flip flops and a wifebeater and laugh at the crowd. The new singer doesn't live up to Chalky's awesome behavior and vocals.

Scepter of the Ancients

 

[lurch70]

I gained a lot more respect for Behemoth after seeing the 6 part studio report on YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPhR9KSvaqY

The "transformation" in Ep. 6 is especially

 

[JayKeeley]

Never really got into Behemoth, although they are excellent live.

I love earlier Nile, right up to Darkened Shrines, but their live performances are hit and miss.

Amon Amarth is all about the live performance. They really do command the stage, and it's music meant to be played live. When you're in the thick of it all, it works pretty darn good. I've never seen a bad AA performance.

All three bands tour like there's no tomorrow, so I suppose it was only a matter of time before they ended up on a mallcore stage.

 

[Guthrum]

Psycroptic and Stargazer will annihilate you're fucking guts.

 

[lurch70]

if this is not the gayest thing ever from Nile ... not sure what is

styrofoam pyramids covered with sand? ... this is shameless Spinal Tap territory

the making of:
http://www.mtv.com/overdrive/?vid=193424

and the video to the song with the most assinine title ever:
http://www.mtv.com/overdrive/?vid=194954

In a Decibel magazine article penned by journalist Rod Smith, guitarist/vocalist Karl Sanders provided the background story for "Papyrus Containing The Spell To Protect The Possessor From Attacks From He Who Is In The Water", which debuted on the official Ozzfest web site on June 6. "It's from 'The Book Of Overthrowing Apep'," he said. "There's a spell in there, a chant that's supposed to stop crocodiles from attacking your boat. I tried to picture it and thought, 'Your boat's being attacked by crocodiles. Are you really supposed to dig out your scroll, fumble through it, find the right chapter, repeat the words, and the crocodiles are gonna leave you alone? When the croc is about to bite you in half, are you gonna be able to find that chapter fast enough?' It's a ridiculous concept. I found myself thinking, 'This song needs to have the words said as fast as possible.' We decided this song would be frantic, fast as anything we'd ever done, with the words super-frantic fast, for that 'trying to escape from the jaws of the crocodile' feeling."

:zombie:

 

[Krigloch the Furious]

how is that a bad video?

 

[Det Som Engang Var]

You can not be serious. You lost respect for Amon Amarth because they tour with shitty bands? It's not like they choose who they tour with! "Hey I don't like Himsa, let's cancel this tour and go back to our day jobs".

This is ridiculous.

 

[JayKeeley]

styrofoam pyramids covered with sand? ... this is shameless Spinal Tap territory

sounds kinda cool! I like stage set ups and all that 80's jazz

 

[EricT]

Behemoth has just gotten ridiculous, and I could care less who or what they tour with.

Amon Amarth, despite their new fanbase gained over the last year, still put on one hell of a show and thats all that matters. Though, I can easily see them going the way of Behemoth, playing the same 10 songs off of the same 3 albums for 3 US tours a year.

Nile, meh.

 

[lurch70]

sounds kinda cool! I like stage set ups and all that 80's jazz

its not about stage setups ... check the "making of" video above.

 

[General Zod]

Call me fickle, call me a faggot, call me what you will, but whatever name you choose will not be worse than what these acts deserve to be named for playing on tours in front of lop sided haired homosexual rights activists.

You're holding the artists responsible for the make up of their audience? If these bands had compromised to attract these audiences, I could see losing respect. But none of them have. They're playing the music they want to play and making a living at it. You want them to be so tr00 that they turn down financial opportunities? That seems unrealistic... and unfair. Aside from a few silly Black Metal bands, most musicians want to make their living playing music and not working a factory job.

Zod

 

[lurch70]

not to mention chicks coming to their shows, not just wacky dudes off of a forum

 

[dorian gray]

Aside from a few silly Black Metal bands

so true

 

[Sanctums]

Though I still feel that all of these bands are churning out quality releases, my level of respect for the individuals behind the tunes has significantly descended in to a vat of guano. Call me fickle, call me a faggot, call me what you will, but whatever name you choose will not be worse than what these acts deserve to be named for playing on tours in front of lop sided haired homosexual rights activists. I understand that a band wants to get their music out to the widest group of listeners available, but I'll be God damn if playing alongside Chimaira, then touting "death to poseurs" doesn't leave a foul taste in my mouth.

No Bro, Fuck You!

I could care less about a band's fanbase; I just can't bring myself to actually care about it. When a band changes their sound and to a lesser extent their image to appease an expanding fanbase, I lose respect for them. One could accuse Behemoth of this; but I think Amon Amarth has stayed fundamentally the same.

 

[Papa Josh]

You're holding the artists responsible for the make up of their audience? If these bands had compromised to attract these audiences, I could see losing respect. But none of them have. They're playing the music they want to play and making a living at it. You want them to be so tr00 that they turn down financial opportunities? That seems unrealistic... and unfair. Aside from a few silly Black Metal bands, most musicians want to make their living playing music and not working a factory job.

Zod

This reminds me of back when I was in 6th and 7th grade (86-87) and everything was about Metallica for me. My dad looked at me one day and said "you know, there is going to come a time when you are going to hate that band."

I thought he was fucking nuts, but he turned out to be right eventually.

For some reason, people hate sharing their "precious."

 

[JayKeeley]

most musicians want to make their living playing music and not working a factory job.

Or they might just give in to the notion of having to work 9-5 simply because their music is never going to sell either way. Working in a factory therefore affords a musician his or her artistic freedom.

But you're right in the case of Nile, Behemoth, and Amon Amarth because the fact that their fanbase changed or increased is entirely incidental.

When a band changes their sound and to a lesser extent their image to appease an expanding fanbase, I lose respect for them. One could accuse Behemoth of this.

To be fair on Behemoth, they changed from pagan black metal to epic death metal. It's not like they started writing emo pop songs. That said, I suppose death metal is infinitely more popular than BM so I suppose you have a point (if that's the point you were making).

 

[Agalloch]

I still like Behemoth. The Apostasy was a quality release. I've never liked Amon Amarth and Nile's new one is pretty lame.

 

[General Zod]

Or they might just give in to the notion of having to work 9-5 simply because their music is never going to sell either way. Working in a factory therefore affords a musician his or her artistic freedom.

True. And I have no issue with that. If you want to play a nearly inaccessible sub-genre of music, you have to come to terms with certain economic realities. However, unlike In Flames, who saw a market and went after it, Amon Amarth, Nile and Behemoth stood their ground and the market came to them. To me, that should be applauded not criticized.

To be fair on Behemoth, they changed from pagan black metal to epic death metal. It's not like they started writing emo pop songs. That said, I suppose death metal is infinitely more popular than BM so I suppose you have a point (if that's the point you were making).

As you said, it's not like they started writing emo songs. Lot's of bands make transitions within Metal sub-genres without us raising a red flag. What really allowed Behemoth to take off, was the video "Slaves Shall Serve". It's one of the best videos I've ever seen. It got regular play on MTV2's Headbanger's Ball.

Zod

 

[Demilich]

How are you enjoying Scepter of the Ancients, Jerrome?