Has any one lost respect for Nile, Behemoth, Amon Amarth etc?!?

[BenMech]

True. And I have no issue with that. If you want to play a nearly inaccessible sub-genre of music, you have to come to terms with certain economic realities. However, unlike In Flames, who saw a market and went after it, Amon Amarth, Nile and Behemoth stood their ground and the market came to them. To me, that should be applauded not criticized.
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Zod

Agreed, Zod.

My question is this:

Why DID "the market" come TO the "brutal" bands in the first place?? And by market, I refer to press, tour manufactures, and MTV/fuse/whatever?

 

[skeptik]

I think it is a bit of both. They HAVE become mildly more accessible over time by degrees as the media has warmed up more and more to harder edged music, and they have reached out to the press. Of course, being a bigger labels helps.

 

[General Zod]

Why DID "the market" come TO the "brutal" bands in the first place?? And by market, I refer to press, tour manufactures, and MTV/fuse/whatever?

With Behemoth and Amon Amarth, they got a serious push on MTV2. Why? I have no guess. I assume their labels chose to invest in them. With Nile, I'm not sure how/why they ended up on Ozzfest.

Metalcore was clearly going to be a genre with a short life span. However, perhaps the genre prepared kids for the likes of the three bands discussed in this thread.

Zod

 

[lurch70]

Why DID "the market" come TO the "brutal" bands in the first place?? And by market, I refer to press, tour manufactures, and MTV/fuse/whatever?

the war

 

[Reign in Acai]

"Hey I don't like Himsa, let's cancel this tour and go back to our day jobs".

This is ridiculous.

How is this ridiculous?!?! Go watch that MTV Making of Papyrus vid and blow me kike.

You're holding the artists responsible for the make up of their audience? If these bands had compromised to attract these audiences, I could see losing respect. But none of them have. They're playing the music they want to play and making a living at it. You want them to be so tr00 that they turn down financial opportunities? That seems unrealistic... and unfair. Aside from a few silly Black Metal bands, most musicians want to make their living playing music and not working a factory job.

Zod

Signing on to these tours is compromise in my eyes. Himsa? May as well be touring with Korn.

If you picked up an instrument with dollars signs in mind, you've chosen the wrong trade imo.

How are you enjoying Scepter of the Ancients, Jerrome?

I fancy it more than these poseur Egyptian, Roman, and Nordic cocksuquerors that's for damn sure!

 

[JayKeeley]

How are tours set up? Who decides which bands tour together?

 

[Reign in Acai]

Dimmu Borgir Bikinis?

WTF?!

 

[AsModEe]

 

[Hell Mike]

Dimmu Borgir Bikinis?

WTF?!

with ay-rabs posing in them

 

[Reign in Acai]

She's actually white, that's porn whore Jasmine St. Claire. You may remember her from "The World's Largest Gang Bang VII"

 

[Hell Mike]

She's actually white, that's porn whore Jasmine St. Claire. You may remember her from "The World's Largest Gang Bang VII"

She's at least half non-white aryan nsbm warrior, I can tell from my studies at the institute of racial biology at Uppsala Universitet



NOTE: I'm lying about the studies-part.

 

[Reign in Acai]

Italian, Russian, and Dutch is her ethnic make up.


Author's Note - Among her porn films, St. Claire is best known for her appearance in World's Biggest Gang Bang 2 (a 1996 sequel to World's Biggest Gang Bang with Annabel Chong), in which she performed a record-breaking 300 sex acts with about 18 men.


Daddy, are you proud of me?!?!

 

[Necromunchkin]

Her favorite band is also Iron Maiden. FYI and the like.

 

[Reign in Acai]

Hmm, I was expecting it to be Anal Cunt.

 

[lurch70]

that photo was PRE brazilian wax session

 

[dorian gray]

apparently

 

[lurch70]

now I am really LOLing at band swimwear ... there is something great about it

 

[Hell Mike]

Italian, Russian

unpure, no entry to hitler heaven sry

 

[lurch70]

i agree with you Miiike ... there is some A-rab blood in there somewhere.

 

[Sanctums]

How are tours set up? Who decides which bands tour together?

Mostly by band's management, which is often times separate from their label all together. Granted, the labels do have a say in that whole process.