Heavy Mix Criticism Wanted (Core-ish type music)

[Daronspence]

This is my second post and a follow up to this http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/...ever-post-lemme-know-how-bad-i-really-am.html thread.

I pretty much redid the all the production with exception to all the notes played, hence why it took a week

The drums are now kick and snare samples instead of standard ol' DFH garbage.

I also did some research and decided to switch to GTR amp sims instead of Guitar Rig thanks to some Christmas funds
Guitar Tweaks also included gating and panning, which were not included in the previous release.

Still no Bass yet /: as I can't find anyone willing to let me borrow it for more than five minutes... Those greedy...

Anyway, heavy criticism is greatly appreciated and lots of compliments never hurt either

(NOTE: I also switched to dropbox since everyone here seems to appreciate that more )

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/24236738/Music/11_58 No Vox.m4a

 

[Redline4]

Stereo guitars please D:

 

[Daronspence]

Can you elaborate? I guess I don't understand what you mean.

The guitars are panned though

 

[Redline4]

Make sure all your plugins are routed to stereo.

 

[Daronspence]

Well in REAPER im using the GTR Mono to Stereo Tool Rack...so they're all stereo... There aren't different parts for each side of the mix though so maybe that's what you're hearing. Everything is panned evenly. And I just double checked the plugin output and it's sending it out stereo. Or maybe I'm just stupid, which is quite possible

 

[Redline4]

Did you track once and duplicated the track then panned it? if so, it's wrong.

 

[Daronspence]

Haha no its double tracked for once But it was tracked mono. Still not grasping what you mean. An example would be great!

 

[Redline4]

I only hear one guitar in the middle.

 

[Daronspence]

Hmmm...idk what to tell you. I can record it again I guess any other thoughts about the mix besides no stereo guitars?

 

[Redline4]

Since there's no bass and it's only mono guitars I don't think it can be considered as ''a mix''.

 

[xxpaul]

I only hear one guitar in the middle.

+ 1

I don't know what you did to the guitars but somethings not right.

The snare seems to be the same velocity on every hit. There is a pretty good youtube tutorial here.

http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/...3-program-drums-sound-real-youtube-video.html

 

[Bay Studio]

did you copy the the guitar you recorded to left/right? cuz if, then you get a MONO effect instead of stereo panning.. you have to play the left guitar swell as the right one, otherwise you lack on the fat stereo effect.
in one word: guitars aren't panned!!!! thats the first thing i´d go for to get a "mix". this sounds like a demo!
if you don't have someone to play bass or you can't borrow one, then simply just do it with trillion (midi bass plugin).
lets talk about the drums after you got the guitars down ;-)

 

[Robert Landrum]

The overdubs are in stereo but the mains are not. Weird. Something isn't routed right. Leads sound stereo as well. Double check your routing in your DAW cause something is off somewhere. That shit is straight up the middle.

 

[Daronspence]

I really appreciate all the feedback guys! And addressing the stereo problem/issue. My project crashed during the middle of production so I was forced to listen to all the little clips looking for the right ones. Long story short Redline was right and I take total responsibility, as it is the same guitar take, so I feel mega stupid

One other thing that may help to further the understanding for the future. Regardless of the take, The guitars chain is

Fast Track Pro > Waves GTR > Panned 90% Left and Right (double tracked respectively)

If this isn't necessarily gonna help/hinder the "stereo" guitar effect I would love to know

Also if you could describe the drums in one word, what would it be? So I have time to take it all in

Thanks for all the feedback and keep it coming!

 

[Joshandhisguitar]

pan guitars and record bass, then we'll talk about the mix.

Overall guitars are too loud

 

[Daronspence]

Hey guys, I appreciate the feedback! I'm gonna get some new strings and re record most of the guitars, but probably all of them. I also just got my hands on a pair of Studio Monitors (finally!) so I can get a better "look" at my mix. Now I hear what everyone is sayin

I'll be back in a few

 

[kronk_1985]

I hear rhythm gats in the middle and overdubs on the right. I turned it off after that. Hehe

 

[Joshandhisguitar]

I hear rhythm gats in the middle and overdubs on the right. I turned it off after that. Hehe

lol.