Hihats must die.

Does everyone hate automation? It's probably the easiest / most natural sounding way. I had to go crazy with this on a project today, drummers really need to learn to not play their hihats so loud.
 
no, automation is your friend. but it´s very tough to let it sound natural on a stereo overhead track bringing the hi-hats down and the crashes up when played.
always dependent on the source of course.
 
All the guys who say "automation" probably haven't dealt with drummers who alternate between the hats and various cymbals all the time and to top it off add some single hits in breaks and stuff... best bet is to get it right during tracking. Since that's not the case then yeah - automation and sidechaining.
 
All the guys who say "automation" probably haven't dealt with drummers who alternate between the hats and various cymbals all the time and to top it off add some single hits in breaks and stuff... best bet is to get it right during tracking. Since that's not the case then yeah - automation and sidechaining.

To be fair, the mix I just finished only had a few sections of hats, and there wasn't any intense cymbal work going on. I imagine if its really complicated Automation would be a pita.
 
All the guys who say "automation" probably haven't dealt with drummers who alternate between the hats and various cymbals all the time and to top it off add some single hits in breaks and stuff... best bet is to get it right during tracking. Since that's not the case then yeah - automation and sidechaining.

Actually I've dealt with that plenty. However, in this situation we're talking about a punk rock recording and the drums are already tracked. Of course you "get it right in tracking". But they didn't do that, so we're talking about possible fixes.
 
I did close mic it and thought about this, might give it a shot. This playing is very erratic so it may not matter anyway. :Shedevil:

One thing to remember is your still going to be getting alot of your highhat sound from the overheads, so when you sidechain compress with the close mic, you're just looking to get the highhat more under control in the overheads, not make it completely disappear. Then when you bring in the close mic, EQ it with the overheads up. You need to get a nice sound from the sum of both sources. You can't make your highhat close mic sound beautiful on its own and then expect to have the same sound when the overheads are up.