how do you guys record head output for use with impulses?

[006]

Yes you should. It takes several hours of having no load on it to cause it, but it does happen to the amplifier. It just happened recently with my 5150 becuase my boss likes to get high as shit when he does projects and he left mine on without being patched to a cab...

As far as using a Weber as a guitar DI, I have no clue, if you e-mail him he'll get back with you usually within the hour or the same day at least.

I understand that the THD HotPlate is probably more attractive than the Weber, however, how classic is gigantic silk screened white letters spelling out "MEGA DUMP"?

~e.a

 

[johnnypreset]

Thanks for the quick reply mate, cleared that one up for me.

 

[Carrier Flux]

Hello guys, been a lurker here for a while, great forum.

Reading through this post has caused me to soil myself a bit, so I'm looking for a
wee bit of advice.

I've been messing about with impulses for a while initially with a toneport, but now I'm running through my Randall V2. I'm probably asking for trouble cause I aint using a dummy load with it (no cab either) just straight from the fx send into the desk.
The heads got a line out on it as well but it's frankly balls.

I was getting some good results from the fx send but now you've all got me worrying that I'm about to blow it up.

Should I stop now and buy a dummy load before I melt the bastard?

Cheers guy's.

talk to randal. it looks like that head is a hybrid S.S. / tube rig, so if the output section is really a solid state power section you may not need a dummy load at all if I remember correctly. there's a tube in the output section but it looks like that may just be a tone shaping tube, not a real power tube. so I would email randall and ask them if you can use the head without a speaker load for direct recording, you might be able to.

 

[006]

Ah I didn't know it was SS...

~e.a

 

[johnnypreset]

I did think about this because it is essentially S.S with novelty tubes.
The fact that it also has a dedicated line out would lead me to believe that it's ok to run it without a load. But as I said, the line out sounds like shizen so I'm using the fx send.
However the manual being utter gash does not make any mention of this. Reading through the above posts got me worrying though but I'll investigate further.
Again thanks for your replies guys.

 

[Kazrog]

I will say this - it's even more important to have fresh tubes in your amp when you use a dummy load and impulses than it is when you mic up a cab.

 

[s34nsm411]

alright i finally got everything working i ended up using the slave out and having the amp connected to a cab normally, is there any quality degredation in using the slave out instead of loop? anyway heres the fruits of my labor

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=522744
amptest

hows it sound? i cant wait to play around with recording guitars this way more


edit: oh yeah, is anything gained by playing the amp louder? i tried some comparisons between cranking it and having it low, but it seems like the preamp output isnt much different

 

[xmarcelx]

alright i finally got everything working i ended up using the slave out and having the amp connected to a cab normally, is there any quality degredation in using the slave out instead of loop? anyway heres the fruits of my labor

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=522744
amptest

hows it sound? i cant wait to play around with recording guitars this way more


edit: oh yeah, is anything gained by playing the amp louder? i tried some comparisons between cranking it and having it low, but it seems like the preamp output isnt much different

Are the guitars processed?

 

[s34nsm411]

Are the guitars processed?

c4 and some eq, but thats it

 

[Carrier Flux]

sounds really good man. no complaints here.

 

[Keiffer]

I will say this - it's even more important to have fresh tubes in your amp when you use a dummy load and impulses than it is when you mic up a cab.

why?

s34nsm411, that sounds great...

 

[miche]

@s34nsm411: sounds like a cool base.

just wondering [maybe I should start a new thread instead of asking this here], has anyone already tried to record a krank revolution 1 using the direct output and impulses? my result was a little weird: way too much bass and highs, overall sound really synthetic.

 

[Carrier Flux]

@s34nsm411: sounds like a cool base.

just wondering [maybe I should start a new thread instead of asking this here], has anyone already tried to record a krank revolution 1 using the direct output and impulses? my result was a little weird: way too much bass and highs, overall sound really synthetic.

that's how cranks sound to me period heheh. just my opinion though.

 

[miche]

that's how cranks sound to me period heheh. just my opinion though.

aww, I guess it is just a matter of taste. to me, they sound nearly better than dual rectifiers [besides being really different].

but to come back on my problem: the krank with direct out and impulses doesn't sound the same way at all than when mic'ed.

 

[Carrier Flux]

aww, I guess it is just a matter of taste. to me, they sound nearly better than dual rectifiers [besides being really different].

but to come back on my problem: the krank with direct out and impulses doesn't sound the same way at all than when mic'ed.

did you have the amp turned up when using the direct out? (with a speaker load of course). power tube saturation often gets rid of a lot of fuzz or grit.

 

[s34nsm411]

so does anybody know if having the amp cranked when tracking will produce a better signal for convoluting than when playing quietly?

 

[miche]

@Carrier Flux: yes it was, and it was actually plugged on a cab, not a load [gotta buy one, the elephant's mega dump sounds interesting].

@s34nsm411: I am not sure that the preamp lamps work differently if the power lamps work more. but I am no expert, I am sure someone here could give a precise answer though.

 

[xmarcelx]

so does anybody know if having the amp cranked when tracking will produce a better signal for convoluting than when playing quietly?

If you use the send output it should make no difference coz the signal is taken before the powerstage and powertubes...

If you recorded the impuls with the same amp thru the return it should sound very close
to the miced like you can hear on Keiffers blind test clips!

on some amps there is a line output (slave out) which comes from the powertrafo so it uses the powertubes!

does this makes sense?