Maybe this can help you out. Mastering Tutorial for a punk song I did.
http://mbrssounddesign.forumotion.com/t5-paint-it-white-mastering-tutorial
http://mbrssounddesign.forumotion.com/t5-paint-it-white-mastering-tutorial
How should mixes sound before mastering!?
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Omega_Void
Your Eventual Destroyer
I believe he means that an ideal mix sounds just how the you want the finished product to sound. The less the mastering guy has to do to it the better.
It's widely-said that mixes done by guys like Chris Lord-Alge just get bumped up a couple of dB to squeeze a little extra loudness out.
Sweet so do you guys think I'm close then!? Because I honestly don't know what else to do
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9875484/Finals/Song 2 Ft.Steve Brown -TEMP FINAL-.mp3
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9875484/Finals/Song 2 Ft.Steve Brown -TEMP FINAL-.mp3
He means exactly what he said. If you were to send off a mix and get back a master that sounds totally different then either the mastering engineer sucks or you do. Most likely it will be you that sucks.
The clearcoat analogy above was spot on.
Alright for sure, I honestly ran out of things to do to my mix. I'm perfectly happy with the volume levels, and EQ's! It's just when I hear final products everything sounds HUGE while mine is kinda just there!
pikachu69
mixomatic 2000
You have too much sub bass energy in the mix, try using hi pass/low pass on everything and be sure to low shelf any kick samples you may be using. The most important reason you are struggling with apparent loudness is because of the hi mids and highs are way to over bearing. Be very careful if you boost any instrument round the 1k to 4K, this is a better area to cut rather than boost. You will find it very difficult getting vocals to sit in the mix with it this way.
This area is the fundamental range for human hearing so buy boosting here it seems louder but other frequencies such as low mids and lows won't have the same impact. If you bring the hi mids and highs down between 1k to 4k the apparent loudness of the lower frequencies will seem to get louder, therefore allowing you to back off the sub frequencies you have boosted as a result of the above mentioned problem. My ears got fatigued after just one listen to your track. This already has quite a scooped eq sound to it. You must remember for a mix to translate well to other stereos you have to take into account that all systems will apply its own EQ to your track, so if your track already has boosted highs and lows and a scooped mid range, when you put it on a stereo that boosts the highs and lows more and scoops the mid more it will just sound bad. If you aim for a flatter eq curve in mix down and get used to it sounding a bit flat, less hyped, it will sound 100 x better when played back over a system as it can apply it own eq without taking away from the mix.
This area is the fundamental range for human hearing so buy boosting here it seems louder but other frequencies such as low mids and lows won't have the same impact. If you bring the hi mids and highs down between 1k to 4k the apparent loudness of the lower frequencies will seem to get louder, therefore allowing you to back off the sub frequencies you have boosted as a result of the above mentioned problem. My ears got fatigued after just one listen to your track. This already has quite a scooped eq sound to it. You must remember for a mix to translate well to other stereos you have to take into account that all systems will apply its own EQ to your track, so if your track already has boosted highs and lows and a scooped mid range, when you put it on a stereo that boosts the highs and lows more and scoops the mid more it will just sound bad. If you aim for a flatter eq curve in mix down and get used to it sounding a bit flat, less hyped, it will sound 100 x better when played back over a system as it can apply it own eq without taking away from the mix.
C_F_H_13
Protools Guru
I'm somewhere in the middle in this discussion.
I generally try to make my masters as close to what I want them to be (eq wise I mean mostly) before mastering. However as of late I've got a killer ME who does brightness way better then I do, so I've been sending him pretty dull mixes that are balanced, and then he brightens them up pretty considerably. I'm still on the fence as to whether it's better or just different, but it's way easier on my self without all the extra eqing/masking that happens.
I generally try to make my masters as close to what I want them to be (eq wise I mean mostly) before mastering. However as of late I've got a killer ME who does brightness way better then I do, so I've been sending him pretty dull mixes that are balanced, and then he brightens them up pretty considerably. I'm still on the fence as to whether it's better or just different, but it's way easier on my self without all the extra eqing/masking that happens.
01jondud
New Metal Member
I seemed to contently get annoyed when I thought something sounded good, but put into itunes and there was piercing highs and muddy bass, but I found that, even if time consuming, trial and error works quite well at first!, preferably in mixing, just loop a section, bounce, listen in itunes against other things, listen to what it needs, and keep doing it that way. Does make you notice what things need to sound like
Jonny
Jonny
