Alot of people think that the e609 is shit.
But I like it so far.
It works great with an sm57 of-axis. I would never use the 609 alone!!!
But I like it so far.
It works great with an sm57 of-axis. I would never use the 609 alone!!!
How Zeuss achives this unreal good guitar tone???
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GarethSE
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Gabriel it seems you've got this interesting double standard
We offer advice and you're like "I DON'T SEE THE POINT IN THAT"
like maamar said, try parallel compression, it beefs shit up nicely man
i mean did you even take the time to load up a mix and quickly try it out before shooting it down?
it doesnt just get used on shit with massive, obvious transients.
it gets used on vocals a fuck load, and is a very very effective way of getting that pro, mega compressed vocal sound while maintaining some dynamics
i sometimes use it on bass
you asked for advice, we're offering it and you're not even trying it, thus you're wasting your own time and ours, and i don't particularly see the point.
and like i said, AND mike said, it seems like you want a special, secret solution
and like we both said, there isn't one.
take things back to basics
amp, cab, mic, done.
if you cant get a sound that sits in the mix nicely and sounds professional with just a single SM57, you need to go back to the drawing board and try again.
i used to blame my gear, or lack thereof, for my mixes and guitar tones being bad, and funnily enough, it wasn't my gear, it was me. Every time I think I've gotten as much mileage out of this gear as is humanly possible, i prove myself wrong AGAIN and do a mix that sounds even better.
We offer advice and you're like "I DON'T SEE THE POINT IN THAT"
like maamar said, try parallel compression, it beefs shit up nicely man
i mean did you even take the time to load up a mix and quickly try it out before shooting it down?
it doesnt just get used on shit with massive, obvious transients.
it gets used on vocals a fuck load, and is a very very effective way of getting that pro, mega compressed vocal sound while maintaining some dynamics
i sometimes use it on bass
you asked for advice, we're offering it and you're not even trying it, thus you're wasting your own time and ours, and i don't particularly see the point.
and like i said, AND mike said, it seems like you want a special, secret solution
and like we both said, there isn't one.
take things back to basics
amp, cab, mic, done.
if you cant get a sound that sits in the mix nicely and sounds professional with just a single SM57, you need to go back to the drawing board and try again.
i used to blame my gear, or lack thereof, for my mixes and guitar tones being bad, and funnily enough, it wasn't my gear, it was me. Every time I think I've gotten as much mileage out of this gear as is humanly possible, i prove myself wrong AGAIN and do a mix that sounds even better.
Dodo, I know you may feel like I´m waiting for: Cut 1k with q100 and you have the sound....but I dont!!!!
I used to use parallel compression on everything but it didnt worked out.
I like it alot for drums and vocals (especially on an aux of the vocals after a nice verb)
And I am very happy with the sound I get out of my gear. Like I told you guys before, I´m just hunting this 10% which makes Zeuss guitars sound that way.
And sm57 is my go to mic!!!I love it on snare, guitars, da hell it sounds great on vocals, all toms...I never tried it on bassdrum^^
And I´m thankfull for every tip, but I´m on this forum for about 3 years or more, and I tried everything that came up, as a new technic to pimp the sound. So I tried mostly everything what people told me to in this thread...
I´m a hugh fan of Zeuss work about 4 years now. And I always find something little different to the other guitar sounds in that genre...
I used to use parallel compression on everything but it didnt worked out.
I like it alot for drums and vocals (especially on an aux of the vocals after a nice verb)
And I am very happy with the sound I get out of my gear. Like I told you guys before, I´m just hunting this 10% which makes Zeuss guitars sound that way.
And sm57 is my go to mic!!!I love it on snare, guitars, da hell it sounds great on vocals, all toms...I never tried it on bassdrum^^
And I´m thankfull for every tip, but I´m on this forum for about 3 years or more, and I tried everything that came up, as a new technic to pimp the sound. So I tried mostly everything what people told me to in this thread...
I´m a hugh fan of Zeuss work about 4 years now. And I always find something little different to the other guitar sounds in that genre...
Z3R0
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MD421?
Back when i miked up guitar cabs more often instead of DIing everithing, that thing saved me arse more time than once...
Back when i miked up guitar cabs more often instead of DIing everithing, that thing saved me arse more time than once...
Yeah good tip.
I will borrow one for the next production I do (start at the end of july)
I never used this mic for guitars and I dont own one, so maybe this is the key?!?
I will borrow one for the next production I do (start at the end of july)
I never used this mic for guitars and I dont own one, so maybe this is the key?!?
Z3R0
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It gave me a lot of beef in the low end, and then i also blended it with a 57 for clarity.
I know Sneap used it for older Machine Head CDs, i like the low end in the guitars there.
I know Sneap used it for older Machine Head CDs, i like the low end in the guitars there.
chonchball
37studios.com
Zeuss' mastering has a lot to do with the way the guitars get glued into the track.
Listen to Whitechapel versus Emmure's newest CD for example.
Listen to Whitechapel versus Emmure's newest CD for example.
didnt know Zeuss did whitechapel.
I´m very interested in the new Despiced Icon!!!!
The mastering is a good point!!!!
Didnt thought about that.
Also zeuss said in one studio-diary of D.I. that he has a favourite mastering dude, he mostly works with.
Dont remember the name...
I´m very interested in the new Despiced Icon!!!!
The mastering is a good point!!!!
Didnt thought about that.
Also zeuss said in one studio-diary of D.I. that he has a favourite mastering dude, he mostly works with.
Dont remember the name...
Fox Mulder
The Truth Is Out There
You sound like you have a crush on Zeuss. 
There, there. No hard feelings - Just messing with ya!
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There, there. No hard feelings - Just messing with ya!
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XGrabrielX, what Dodo says here is very, very valuable.
Oh I never said that this was wrong
And NO I have no feelings for Zeuss, only for his guitar tone. But I´m a bitch I also love Andy Sneaps, Collin Richardsons, Terry Dates, Adam D. ....I´m a swinger....haha
Maamar Hug, listen to the songs on my myspace (signature) do you think my guitar sounds are that bad?
cheers
And NO I have no feelings for Zeuss, only for his guitar tone. But I´m a bitch I also love Andy Sneaps, Collin Richardsons, Terry Dates, Adam D. ....I´m a swinger....haha
Maamar Hug, listen to the songs on my myspace (signature) do you think my guitar sounds are that bad?
cheers
chonchball
37studios.com
he did not record white chapel, he mastered it. that's why i'm saying, make the comparison to hear how the mastering matched with your recording style matters a lot.
GarethSE
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no doubt about that!!!
But I didnt want to copy Zeuss style for the recordings on my mixpod.
I always try to make a sound, that fits the band and not necessarily my personal favour.
But I think no band would say no, if someone could offer them a Zeuss style guitar tone
KeithTidd
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I remeber an interview with zeuss where he said war within was 3 amps; badcat hotcat, jcm800 and something else. I also think he uses 421's a fair bit.
I really like his gtr tone, too.
especially
throwdown - vendetta
and any hatebreed album
I seen an article that he tells about the colour e gets usin lucid ADA converters.
I bought oneof this babys, it really rocks man, huge sound.
then as other ones sayd, he has great amp heads, and cabinets. I don´t know wich mic pre he uses.
Definitly agree about BASS sound is very important on his finall tone.
chris zeuss
especially
throwdown - vendetta
and any hatebreed album
I seen an article that he tells about the colour e gets usin lucid ADA converters.
I bought oneof this babys, it really rocks man, huge sound.
then as other ones sayd, he has great amp heads, and cabinets. I don´t know wich mic pre he uses.
Definitly agree about BASS sound is very important on his finall tone.
chris zeuss
