How's that possibile? Shitty metal studios in Italy.

[volothamp]

Hello everybody.

Here's the point: I can't really understand how's that possible that all your clips you post on this website sound terrific, awesome.

I don't know what to think. We are a metal band located in Milan, Italy, and we want to record a full-lenght self-produced album, but every studio we found has got only shitty mixing samples.

For example:

This is the demo page of Elnor studio, a metal studio located near my city. It's the home studio of Labyrinth's drummer (an italian "famous" prog/power metal band).

http://www.elnorstudio.com/#content4

I don't know, neither of these sample sounds very "aggressive" to me. They are all weak. All of the "recording tests" I found on this forum sounds better to me.

Please join me in my search for an Italian metal studio. Or at last, join me in my depression (joking).

Any advice on italian METAL studios? Or near north italy - Switzerland, France, Germany Spain... something. Only Europe please.

Thank you.

 

[Erik Monsonis]

Why don't you record there, and then send the tracks to someone else to mix? The demos in the website sound at least, clean, so the raw material must be decent enough for someone with talent to mix it.

 

[Jarkko Mattheiszen]

Yeah. Record the tracks there, be sure to request DI tracks of the guitars and bass, and drum trigger tracks if possible. There's lots of talented guys here who would be willing to mix it.

 

[ParsonsMatt]

If you're going to go that route, it'd probably be cheaper to just buy a DI and recording interface than spending money at a studio, for the guitars and bass anyway.

 

[HandsOfDespair]

The last band I mixed had their fist ep recorded in a studio which cost them 700$ for 4 songs, and it sounded really bad.

For the band's ep I mixed, we recorded drums and vocals in studio, bass and guitars were all DI recorded at home and it sounded really better than their first ep, and it cost them nearly nothing.

I still can't believe in 2009 lot of studios are not recording DIs. I don,t know, I think it's just one of the basic things you need to do. They prefer to record a crate amp instead of recording the DI and send to DI to reamp or use gearbox.

It's sad to say too, but I think there is a lot of lazy people in audio engineering that just...don't care. Most if not all people here aren't this kind of people, if we go on a audio engineering forum to learn things I think it's the best proof we're loving what we do. And we won't record a crate amp. Most mixes I heard here are tons better than mixes I heard from studios that cost a lot.

 

[::XeS::]

Hi...I think the same about italian studios: also the "big" metal bands sound so bad (probably because here you become famous only if you do pop music, and the studios do only pop music).
Anyway there are some pretty cool metal studios, for example Fear Studio (near Ravenna) or something else in Rome.
I've not a "real" studio but I record bands as well (I'm located in Bologna)....if you want, check the last promo I did, here: http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/...omo-song-new-version-5150-real-drums-etc.html

 

[digitaldeath]

I'd track the drums there and maybe the vocals...that's all.

 

[Soundlurker]

Kaomao and ::XeS:: make some pretty good mixes, so you can talk to them if you'd prefer to record in Italy. You could also record somewhere and then upload the tracks and choose someone from here to mix them.

 

[Erik Monsonis]

I'd track the drums there and maybe the vocals...that's all.

+1

Record there the only things you can't record at home: drums and vocals.
Make sure you record triggers for each piece of the drum set and the OverHead/Room tracks are nice enough.

Track DI tracks for guitars and basses at home.

Then send everything to some producer to mix it.

I'd ask the big names in this forum first, maybe joeymusicguy, Lasse Lammert, etc...

 

[Erik Monsonis]

Kaomao and ::XeS:: make some pretty good mixes, so you can talk to them if you'd prefer to record in Italy. You could also record somewhere and then upload the tracks and choose someone from here to mix them.

That is a great idea too.

 

[LeSedna]

Hum why do you say they can't track Vocals at home ?

 

[Erik Monsonis]

Because I don't think they've got a good condenser mic, good pres and good hardware compressors to get them enhace the sound in the way in.

 

[LeSedna]

I see. Well, I think it depends on their needs, for a demo some 58 or 57 in a decent preamp would do the job. But I see.

Anyway yeah the studio you gave the link has some shitty sounds... It's strange, it's like the engineers don't listen to what is an average good metal mix and don't try to imitate at all.

 

[Erik Monsonis]

Anyway yeah the studio you gave the link has some shitty sounds... It's strange, it's like the engineers don't listen to what is an average good metal mix and don't try to imitate at all.

If that's shitty then don't listen to the metal it's recorded here in Spain
Engineers must not know about the existance of metal outside our countries/internet

 

[LeSedna]

Well, are those engineers really metal specialized ? Cause some could be general engineers and do some metal from time to time and some starting bands that don't really know the process would think "hey at least this sound is more decent than mine". No ?

 

[::XeS::]

Rhapsody is a power metal band and the studio of the link is the drummer's studio so....I think he knows what is metal...

 

[LeSedna]

Well maybe we're too formated but hey, I can understand the existence of this thread, still.

 

[Mikaël-ange]

Rhapsody is a power metal band and the studio of the link is the drummer's studio so....I think he knows what is metal...

Sure? Have you already listen Rhapsody music

 

[::XeS::]

Unfortunatelly yes

 

[Mikaël-ange]

Unfortunatelly yes

Btw an good studio (imo) in Italy:http://www.myspace.com/16thcellarstudio