I am TRYING to get legit guitar tone. thoughts?

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Micah Amstutz
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guitars are definitely the weakest spot of my recordings so I am spending numerous hours trying to improve on it (with the assistance of being currently unemployed). sorry if I am posting a lot of mixes, to the point where it becomes annoying :erk: if that is the case, someone please let me know, but personally, I enjoy listening to people's mixes! any information I learn from my indepth study will be generously shared to anyone who wants to know :) that being said, if anyone has anything constructive to say (or destructive for that matter), fire away!

http://soundclick.com/share?songid=8275137

UPDATED: http://soundclick.com/share?songid=8275322
 
The guitars have too much mids, make a cut between 500hz and 800hz. Try to open the sound, it´s very closed. Try also a boost between 5khz and 8khz to add more brightness.
 
I played through the progression several times, then cut it in half then took the second half and put them on their own channels so they are doubled (from one long take) through 2 different amp sims each (two takes, 4 amps).
 
The rhythm tone on the single notes sounds scarily similar to the tone on the most recent Long Distance Calling album. I'm not sure if that's the tone you're going for or whether you're even a fan of post rock at all, but that's the vibe I'm getting.
So basically, you DID copy and paste some tracks to double the tone up? I'm not sure if the sentence you wrote even makes complete sense, but that's what I'm reading.
If that was the case, just go back and re record them.
 
Unavailable said:
Sounds phasey, did you copy paste the guitars at all?
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checked the phase. it's perfect.

Petrovsk Mizinski said:
The rhythm tone on the single notes sounds scarily similar to the tone on the most recent Long Distance Calling album. I'm not sure if that's the tone you're going for or whether you're even a fan of post rock at all, but that's the vibe I'm getting.
So basically, you DID copy and paste some tracks to double the tone up? I'm not sure if the sentence you wrote even makes complete sense, but that's what I'm reading.
If that was the case, just go back and re record them.
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I've never even heard of that band. haha. the tone is just a TS in front of a recto and the L6 big bottom. and what I mean is I played the progression twice as long as it needed to be(twice as long as it is in the sample), then cut it in half and put the second half on another track (rather than going back, and creating new tracks and hitting rewind and starting over at the beginning. I'm not sure how to explain this differently. does that make sense?
 
It's probably just that the guitar on the right sounds strange compared to the one on the left. Not sure what it is. I know you said you have hearing loss in one ear... does it happen to be the right 'cause there is definitely something weird going on there.
 
AudioPhile777 said:
Dude.. I don't know why, but I REALLY LIKE IT... It sounds like an angry marshall amp... I likes it...

I approve of this message.

You should probably heed their advice, though... haha. I'm not going to win a grammy anytime soon...
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haha. thanks Mathew. I dunno why, but I kinda like it too. I like it when amps seem to scream the word "raw" (very midrangy).

Unavailable said:
It's probably just that the guitar on the right sounds strange compared to the one on the left. Not sure what it is. I know you said you have hearing loss in one ear... does it happen to be the right 'cause there is definitely something weird going on there.
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Yes. My right ear is probably 10%-15% quieter than the left. In the last couple of days I've started using a stereo inverter and turning it on and off. This definitely helps!

This is going to be my last variation of this clip. I'm getting tired of effing with it, and I'm sure you guys are tired of hearing it. haha. This time I decided to take a totally different approach, and lower the volume drastically of the amp with the un-natural mids. (I believe it was the Mesa) and raise the volume of the Big Bottom instead. Also, in the previous versions, the mesa was prominent on the right, and the Big Bottom was prominent on the left. I think that was one reason it was sounding very unbalanced. the Mesa was very midrangy and kinda harsh sounding and even though it was "balanced" left and right according to my spectrum analyzer, it was sonicly stronger. The Big Bottom sits a little nicer in the mix. This mix has Big Bottom 100% L, Big Bottom 100% R, Mesa 80% L (about half of the volume of the Big Bottom) and Mesa 80% R (also about half of the volume). I also scooped the mids deeper by 2db.

http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/2752403/uno Master-05.mp3

I THINK I'm getting closer....?:rolleyes:
 
dude
try lowpassing just a little
its got a bit too much sparkle

let me know if that works
i dont want to give you the wrong advice
so let me know :)
 
ahjteam is right
try highpassing the guitar at around..oh i dont know 100 to maybe 300..depending on your guitar tone
and try and get to glue the bass and guitar to make it sound like their working together!

Think of two titties rubbing against each other
(thats the breast....best example i can give)

good luck
 
I think the problem is not the guitar tone it is the balance between the instruments.

Dont know if your track has a bass guitar but clearly no vocals:)

So I would check some pro-productions on parts without vocals to check the balance of them....
 
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