I really like Green Carnation
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i had heard of them and were thinking of checking them out. what do they sound like? and where can i hear a smaple?
Black Dragon
Longest Here
Pain Of Salvation is also a killer band.
Green Carnation is something that I have been checking out. I set audio galaxy to download Light Of Day, Day of darkness and went to bed. I woke up and it was still downloading
. I have listened to a few tracks by these guys and a sure thing that their discography will soon be mine when funding allows.
Green Carnation is something that I have been checking out. I set audio galaxy to download Light Of Day, Day of darkness and went to bed. I woke up and it was still downloading
. I have listened to a few tracks by these guys and a sure thing that their discography will soon be mine when funding allows.
bleed for me
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yea..i d/led the 7 min sample (the whole album is actually 1 60min song) and it's amazing!
i'm now trying to download the ful 60min track of audiogalaxy but it going extremely slow (2k a sec) which is strange coz i have broadband and the slowest i get is like 15k a sec
if it was available here i would buy it
i'm now trying to download the ful 60min track of audiogalaxy but it going extremely slow (2k a sec) which is strange coz i have broadband and the slowest i get is like 15k a sec
if it was available here i would buy it
tombombadil
burning down Yggdrasil
Jim LotFP
The Keeper of Metal
Now there's a thorough critique.
For me, the only slow points on the CD were the ones that as it turns out were intended to be so... during the final mix playbacks, Tchort kept falling asleep at certain points and was pleased because he thought he brought the mood down as he intended.
I like the album. But it's not great.
It's a 60 min single track- it doesn't feel that long, but this isn't neccesarily a good thing. It seems like the whole thing could have been compressed and abridged into a single, 10-15 min track on a more diverse album. So, though it's good, it's not eventful, or memorable. The shorter Crimson, to make comparisons, is far superior.
Another thing I don't like, though it's just a petty flaw: the singing at about 30 min. The girl hollering needs a stonger vocal box. I always cringe in disgust at about that time.
my two.
It's a 60 min single track- it doesn't feel that long, but this isn't neccesarily a good thing. It seems like the whole thing could have been compressed and abridged into a single, 10-15 min track on a more diverse album. So, though it's good, it's not eventful, or memorable. The shorter Crimson, to make comparisons, is far superior.
Another thing I don't like, though it's just a petty flaw: the singing at about 30 min. The girl hollering needs a stonger vocal box. I always cringe in disgust at about that time.
my two.
Jim LotFP
The Keeper of Metal
I don't know that I agree. Light of Day, Day of Darkness sounds short to me. Like some of the parts weren't fully explored to the point they should have.
I hate to say it, and maybe it's just because I've only had the thing a month, but I think this is superior to Crimson...
That's interesting. In either case we seem to agree it's flawed. It's either unnecessarily long, or it's not developed enough.
Regarding Crimson, "Superiority" is a judgement that proceeds from some kind of criteria, almost invariably provincial in nature. Yours (criteria) is different from mine. There is no dispute here, in case you're looking for one.
Jim LotFP
The Keeper of Metal
Well, every recording ever made except for Morningrise is flawed in some way, so you can hardly hold that against it.
I don't know, this place needs a musically based dispute to get people's focus people away from the 'state of the board', and creating controversy around such an ambitious and monumental album like this Green Carnation can only get people curious, so I dispute your claims that there is no dispute!
I had a feeling you were going to say that. But, unfortunately, I'm feeling too dispirited right now to engage in a fruitless (?) battle of tastes right now. My musical testosterone isn't fully mobilized and circulating, if you know what I mean. So I'll have to postpone this till later. I got to the 30 minute mark and when the female vocalist started going off so did the disc. I will need to run it again and fast forward it at that point.
Enjoy the moment......
Enjoy the moment......
Jim:
I have two disputes with you regarding LOD, DOD. First you say it's ambitious-- I don't think so. Then you say it's monumental-- I don't think so.
The song runs like one long and rarefied continuation of the same musical idea, at best; or a montonous repetition of the same musical idea, at worst.
In the former case, 60 min is asking a tad much of a person's time. A single idea- almost like a single emotion that wavers back and forth like a flag, to make metaphors hopefully descriptive of my perception of the music- however long is still a single thing. It could be 60 or 80 min long-- it's still one thing. When the music stops what's achieved is the memory of a single thing, essentially, and it's not too a great thing to begin with. This comprises the sum of the musical experience. Hence, as stated, the track, I feel, should have been condensed into a 10-20 min track included on a more diverse album filled with other tracks. Brevity would have given whatever artistic vision underlying the song a greater expression. In short, the song is monumentally long, but it's not monumental musically. This also might explain why you feel the song could have gone on for longer -- as I stated, I like the song, but it doesn't "do much" - hence i say it should be shorter; and it doesn't take me anywhere- hence you feel it should be longer.
The appelatives "ambitious" and "monumental" are given by musical folk who, I suspect, are starving for something in their lives. They need a certain void filled. And when it is, they will think highly of whatever fills it- more highly than it should be. I think ambition of this kind should exist and be exercised more often, but I don't praise albums simply because they happen to be long-winded 60 min tracks. Such is rare but not unprecedented in music (see Crimson; see classical music).
(This post too is long-winded, doesn't do much and doesn't go anywhere concisely. It should be about 5 sentences long, but, hey, I still feel rather comatose dialectically
) 8 out of 10 stars for Green Carnation's "Light of Day, Day of Darkness" Good for a tepid, unchallenging musical experience. (10 for Crimson)
tentatively...
CladInDarkness
Under A Blackened Sky
I have these guys in que to download in audiogalaxy, I have about 200 more songs till i get to them haha. Right now im loading The Crown.
benny
Artifact Of Chaos
Demonspell
cheating the polygraph
The excerpt on The End's website sound great, but I don't know if I'm going to risk a 60+ plus megabyte download, even on a cable connection
Wolff
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Allright, so here's a more thorough critique.
I really like the first 30 mins. There are some great riffs i.e. the intro until about 8:00(4:40- is excellent btw), and then again at 11:26 until about (14:07 riff is great; 16:20 likewise) until 18:00. 22:15-25:00 is good too. Then that woman totally ruins it for me.
It gets again interesting around the 40 minute mark (great solos 42:15 or so)
The vox in my opinion are weak. They turn out to be 80's metal at times (47minute mark). I don't care too much about the keyboards/psychedelic feel either. Too Pink Floyidish at times.
Overall, I think the song lacks cohesiveness. If you could edit it, it would make a kickass 15-20 minute song.
Crimson? Nah, far from it. If Crimson is a 10, this is a 7.5.
