I started to like this country until...
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Bekanor
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Oh you Americans and your guns 
Might be time to stop thinking about the profits being made from the arms trade, and start thinking about the lives of the citizens.
Might be time to stop thinking about the profits being made from the arms trade, and start thinking about the lives of the citizens.
You guys need to understand that you are causing yourself to 'need' these weapons. I don't believe Australia and America are that far removed from each other as far as culture is concerned. We get all the same movies/TV that you guys get (you produce 90%), but at the end of the day we don't need to have a handgun in the bedside drawer to feel safe at night. If the government made it illegal for anyone to carry a firearm like it is here, then you would feel the same peace of mind that we feel. All you need to do is change your laws to make it so... we are doing it here and i'm 23 and i've never seen a real gun in my life and don't ever want to.
I hate how you make it sound like its a necessity to carry one when it really isn't. Though I guess if I had grown up with guns around me my entire life I would feel the same way as you. Its up to your government to move your country in the right direction. But again... think of all the lost profits $$$
I hate how you make it sound like its a necessity to carry one when it really isn't. Though I guess if I had grown up with guns around me my entire life I would feel the same way as you. Its up to your government to move your country in the right direction. But again... think of all the lost profits $$$
xFkx
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I know a change of perspective is a hard thing to do, and I understand the cultural background and history that promotes it, but I can't stress enough how borderline insane this logic sounds to an European.
Just sayin'
crillemannen
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The sixth amendment anyone?
The thing is if you own a gun then you become a threat to the burglars etc so you got a bigger risk getting shot instead of "just" being robbed.
The thing is if you own a gun then you become a threat to the burglars etc so you got a bigger risk getting shot instead of "just" being robbed.
SocialNumb
Damn Christians!
TheDriller
Member
Waits for James to chime in.
Why wait?
just go look at his previous posts in similarly themed threads and you're done.
Notuern
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I agree with half of what you said...the arms trade this country has been involved with is rediculous.
But we still have the right to protect ourselves with guns. unfortunately when we try to think about the lives of other people there is always a nut who tries to ruin it especially burglars, and IMO the best way to deal with it is either call the police (which takes a while) or threaten to shoot if he doesn't get off my property.
And I'm a liberal Obama supporter who believes in national healthcare system too
I dont know.. i definitely dont feel any need to have a gun just so that i can "protect my self", and i live in a town full of criminals related to OG(15,7) and Bandidos(X-Team).
(A side-note is that almost all of Swedens amphetamines is distributed to the dealers through this area.)
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Oh, and im not in for any debate.. i don't live in America, and you guys have the rights to your opinions.
I just shared my thoughts about it.
MarcusGHedwig
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FTR, I've never seen a handgun in person either (outside of a museum obviously), and while I know a few people who have rifles and shotguns for sport shooting, the only people I'm acquainted with who own handguns are ex-military...or on here 
CubanDude
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pikachu69
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Protect yourselves from who exactly? other fellow Americans?
Burglars probably feel the need to carry guns to feel safer going into a home where there is likely to be a gun in the first place. Like others have said I know it is just a cultural difference but the facts speak for them selves, America has the most relaxed gun policy in the world, America has more gun related deaths per year than almost the rest of the world put together. You all need a gun to feel safe because every man and his dog already has one that is all.
If you want a kick and an example of how over the top American gun laws are compared to the rest of the world get this:
Here in good old New Zealand EVEN OUR POLICE DON"T CARRY GUNS! (I am not kidding)
Because they don't need too. Why? Because in New Zealand even if you have a hand gun licence the gun itself stays at the rifle range, you are not aloud to take it home. It takes months of training and police background checks to get your licence and you cannot just walk into any old store and purchase guns or ammo. We have less than 10 shootings a year here with nearly 5 million people, a stat we are proud of and it is a DIRECT result of the much tougher laws without a doubt in my mind. In this day and age this number will increase I am sure and one day our police will carry guns but we are so far from being like America it is not funny and it is something we are all rather glad about. I cannot remember in over 30 years the last time a police officer was shot or killed in the line of duty in NZ
SocialNumb
Damn Christians!
Bunch of nancies. 
I don't have guns to protect myself or to feel safe. I live behind a gate with a guard and his gun. 
I could think of a time a gun would have come in very handy though.
I just enjoy shooting them from time to time. Anyways, this has been debated enough times in this forum and it's always the same result, you all just don't get it. You have to live here to really get it.
Knifes, Machete's, bow and arrows, home made explosives, and on and on . . . the list is long, there is plenty ways to kill.
I don't have guns to protect myself or to feel safe. I live behind a gate with a guard and his gun. I could think of a time a gun would have come in very handy though.I just enjoy shooting them from time to time. Anyways, this has been debated enough times in this forum and it's always the same result, you all just don't get it. You have to live here to really get it.
Knifes, Machete's, bow and arrows, home made explosives, and on and on . . . the list is long, there is plenty ways to kill.
pikachu69
mixomatic 2000
Well I could say the very same thing, you can't see what the rest of the world sees in America because you live there. If you moved away for a while and looked back you would see. Remember America is alone in the world with its criminal stats which to me speaks volumes but because you are taught to be so very patriotic and love your country no matter what you will never see what is really going on. The rest of the world does not see America the way you are taught that we do. I understand that situations now dictate that you need to have a gun to feel safe or what ever, after what I have learned I think if I ever had to move to America, (not that I want to) I would buy a gun too. But, its because of the way society is in America that forces you to need one, not just because you can.
PS I was not around for previous discussions and I feel rather strongly about this so sorry for the rant.
ratsapprentice
God can gtfo
People get killed everyday in 99% of countries, it only gets reported when it's en masse or someone important, statistically it's a non-event.
Unless there is someone who has lived in the US and another country (with stricter gun laws, natch) for a significant period, I don't think anyone on this forum is really in a position to argue either way.
Unless there is someone who has lived in the US and another country (with stricter gun laws, natch) for a significant period, I don't think anyone on this forum is really in a position to argue either way.
SocialNumb
Damn Christians!
Well for what it's worth, I'm not Edit: (lol music, note) very patriotic. America is a shit hole filled with Christians.
EerieVon
Member
If the nut job didn't use a gun he would have used something else--perhaps homemade pipe bomb or something. Europeans don't understand our need to guns to sometimes feel protected just like I don't understand how in their past a political party could form a militia and kill their opponents--and be very much open about it. Also the US has never experienced the home grown terrorist movements that some European countries, especially Germany, have seen like the Red Army Faction, or even the later Neo-Nazi groups that were stock piling weapons in which to overthrown the government.
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SocialNumb
Damn Christians!
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