i used a tubescreamer and it sucked

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i had my first recording session in a month the other day, and i put my modded TS7 (tone cap mod and the ts808 mod) in the guitar chain. it went:

guitar (cort with 85's) -> TS7 -> mesa triple rectifier -> marshall 1962 cab ->sm57.

and the sound was just crap. we had a decent tone thru the mesa, and i thought it could use more gain, so i chucked the TS7 in there, and it just muddied every thing and and gave the whole sound much more hum and hiss. i tried moving every control on the TS7 and it just didnt want to un-muddy. i opened up the pedal, checked all the solders, everything was sweet.

i didnt record it, so i unfornatuley cant post samples, but has anyone had experience with the TS7/mesa combo? are they not to be matched or did i just do something horribly wrong?!

thanks guys!

 

[punkrockacademyfightsong]

usually when you throw a tubescreamer in front you have to lower the gain of the amp to compensate. I've also noticed I often raise some low end on the amp too when i throw a tubescreamer in front.

 

[LSD-Studio]

sounds like the mod wasn't done correctly

 

[Ola Englund]

as LSD said, there must've been something wrong... You can't go wrong with any setting on a tubescreamer into a rectifier. Unless you put levels on zero.

 

[Loren Littlejohn]

The amp should just be breaking up before you engage the tubes creamer. At least thats how I boost.

Otherwise I would take a look at the mod like LSD said.

 

[Keessi]

one possibility is that you had the "hot" switch on on the tubescreamer. a tubescreamer is not a distortion pedal. it's a fucking "tighten' that shit up bitch" -kind of pedal . Don't turn the drive up too much!

 

[JBroll]

You got it wrong the moment you said you wanted more gain - that's not what it's there for.

That said, I'd suspect a mod gone wrong.

Jeff

 

[Manicompression]

yeah dude, i actually have been using an un-modded ts7 for the last few weeks infront of my mesa dual and it really has done only good things. I put the gain on the amp just a hair below where I would want it without the pedal. sometimes I have to roll back the volume on my guitar to stop any unwanted noise. Also I found that the benifit of using the pedal was less noticable at lower volumes, so crank it up.

 

[evolutions_end]

sweet. thanks guys. ive got some dudes coming in here in the nexxt 5 minutes to track guitar, so ill give it a go with them then.

 

[JBroll]

Also check the battery - these pedals sound trashy if the battery is dying and they're in front of another distorting stage.

Jeff

 

[Nebulous]

i had my first recording session in a month the other day, and i put my modded TS7 (tone cap mod and the ts808 mod) in the guitar chain. it went:

guitar (cort with 85's) -> TS7 -> mesa triple rectifier -> marshall 1962 cab ->sm57.

and the sound was just crap. we had a decent tone thru the mesa, and i thought it could use more gain, so i chucked the TS7 in there, and it just muddied every thing and and gave the whole sound much more hum and hiss. i tried moving every control on the TS7 and it just didnt want to un-muddy. i opened up the pedal, checked all the solders, everything was sweet.

i didnt record it, so i unfornatuley cant post samples, but has anyone had experience with the TS7/mesa combo? are they not to be matched or did i just do something horribly wrong?!

thanks guys!

In experimenting with a TS when I first got one, I'd say that you might have just overgained the signal. It can get pretty noisy with the right (wrong?) amount of gain. I usually pull the amp gain down to half and use the TS as a clean boost.

 

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hey guys
i just tried it again. the pedal is really really noisy. i think i might have to do some sheilding or something. i tried lowering the settings on the mesa and it helped. i didnt get a better tone, but i got a much different tone. i used it to track lead breaks, solos and that kinda thing. it dint sound good crash hot at the shugga shugga kinda stuff. i guess its just a bit more experimenting!

 

[Golden Diaper]

I had the same results when I put it in front of my 5150. Not that I really needed any more gain I was just experimenting because I had read an article that Adam D. used one to record guitars for KSE. It just seemed to make an already noisy amp even noisier. After reading some of the earlier posts I'm starting to think it was broken.

 

[JBroll]

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Does nobody read the sticky threads concerning the subject matter, or would that make too much sense?

Jeff

 

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i read your guide, twice! i think im just cursed!

 

[JBroll]

That was actually aimed at Golden Diaper. "Not that I needed more gain"... no, you didn't, and that's not what it's for.

Jeff