ICED EARTH - Burnt Offerings (remaster)... thoughts?

General Zod

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I always thought the production on the original recording was quite weak and that Matt's vocals were a bit buried. Is the remaster worth picking up? Does it approve on the original? Gracias.

Zod
 
weak production or not, Burnt Offerings is my favorite Iced Earth disc - and I've been with them since the self-titled album debuted. I view the Burnt Offerings disc as Iced Earth's 'Back in Black'. It was special. There was a lot of soul put into it. There was a lot of pain put into it. And nothing Iced Earth does will ever top it. :heh:

But to answer your question, the remastered version is definitely worth the money. Damn skippy. :kickass: There are even some guitar licks and little details that I never heard on the original. So yeah, get it.
 
I always thought the production on the original recording was quite weak and that Matt's vocals were a bit buried. Is the remaster worth picking up? Does it approve on the original? Gracias.

Zod

I would highly recommend picking it up. It is my favorite from them also and the whole thing just comes to life with the remaster. I heard things in the mix that I never knew existed after hearing the remaster...:rock:

Wanna sample it first? I know that you will buy it after you hear how good it sounds!!!

Kent
 
DONT DO IT ZOD!....screw remasters!...it was meant to be heard the way it was produced!
LOL. I have mixed emotions about remasters. On some levels, I agree with your sentiments. However, bad production is never preferable. And this disc would have never sounded as it does if Iced Earth had more than $8 and a 4-track on which to record it.

Zod
 
Please don't confuse re-mastering with re-mixing. Re-mastering is an adjustment to the over all stereo mix, usually making the overall sound louder, punchier, and more clear in some cases. When an album is re-mastered they don't go in and change individual track levels. The Megadeth stuff that came out a few years ago was re-mixed and remastered, Dave changed individual tracks and re-recoded instruments. If the IE is only re-mastered the only thing it will do is boost the level and maybe make it cleaner and punchier depending on how they tweak the EQ. The only way Matt's vocals wont sound buried still (as Gen Zod eluded to) is if the boost the frequency range that Matt's voice covers, this sometimes throws the mix off as other instruments cover the same frequency range. Sorry, just my 2 cents. I generally find that stuff recorded from 1994 on has pretty good levels that re-mastering is not needed unless the original job was just horrendous.
 
Please don't confuse re-mastering with re-mixing. Re-mastering is an adjustment to the over all stereo mix, usually making the overall sound louder, punchier, and more clear in some cases. When an album is re-mastered they don't go in and change individual track levels. The Megadeth stuff that came out a few years ago was re-mixed and remastered, Dave changed individual tracks and re-recoded instruments. If the IE is only re-mastered the only thing it will do is boost the level and maybe make it cleaner and punchier depending on how they tweak the EQ. The only way Matt's vocals wont sound buried still (as Gen Zod eluded to) is if the boost the frequency range that Matt's voice covers, this sometimes throws the mix off as other instruments cover the same frequency range. Sorry, just my 2 cents. I generally find that stuff recorded from 1994 on has pretty good levels that re-mastering is not needed unless the original job was just horrendous.
Awesome post. I've never been clear on what exactly "remastered" means.:kickass:

Zod
 
Personally I love the mix on Burnt Offerings as it's so ...mmm..not sure what word I would use...it fits the album though...it just has a good evil sound. To compare to something recent, the new Mayhem is muffled as hell but I wouldn't want it any other way for that album as I think it sounds awesome because of it. Im not someone that has some distaste for a crystal clear production by any means, but I do feel that Burnt Offerings is as awesome as it is in part because of the production it has.
 
weak production or not, Burnt Offerings is my favorite Iced Earth disc - and I've been with them since the self-titled album debuted. I view the Burnt Offerings disc as Iced Earth's 'Back in Black'. It was special. There was a lot of soul put into it. There was a lot of pain put into it. And nothing Iced Earth does will ever top it. :heh:

But to answer your question, the remastered version is definitely worth the money. Damn skippy. :kickass: There are even some guitar licks and little details that I never heard on the original. So yeah, get it.


totally agree with you on everything here:rock:
 
Burnt Offerings is not a disc with which I ever has a major problem with the sound quality, but I did pick up that box set a couple years ago that has the remixed version of Iced Earth, Night Of The Stormrider, Burnt Offerings, as well as the "Purgatory" demo and the covers disc. Given the mix and overall sound of all the albums produced by Jim Morris (from The Dark Saga onwards), I can see why Jon would have wanted Jim Morris to remix the earlier stuff too. The sound on the new mixes is clearer, but some people have also had problems with the songs therefore coming off a bit differently. The one example that comes up in my mind is the immediately noticeable difference in the beginning of "Angels Holocaust", on Night Of The Stormrider.