ICED EARTH Guitarist Waives Extradition, Returns To Delaware To Face Rape Charges
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AsModEe
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derek
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Pyrus said:
Well Barlow wasn't forced out by Jon was he? I could be wrong, I thought he left on his own.
derek
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Zivilyn said:
That'd be a naive view upon the situation.
Jon wanted Owens in the band for a LONG time, and it's common knowledge that Jon alone orchestrates the revolving door of musicians in the band.
Lunar Still
Doodle drawrer
Jon wanted Ripper when he had Barlow? I believe the American Psychological Association lists that as an instant qualifier for mental retardation.
El Stormo
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derek
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What the hell is wrong with you people, Ripper had nothing to do with the descent of Iced Earth. Dont get me wrong, Barlow is THE voice of Iced Earth, but the Ripper is an incredible singer none the less.
neal
wizard in black
Chromatose
Squid pro quo
That's probably the only excuse he could come up with to get out of there where Jon would be like "ohhhhh yeah! right on! I understand!"
Cause otherwise, who knows, he might've started talking shit about him for ditching the band.
Cause otherwise, who knows, he might've started talking shit about him for ditching the band.
neal
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derek
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AsModEe
also known as ass-mode
hey hey now, Barlow sings about how not cool it is to take ***** and disobey your parents, gotta respect that.
derek
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Barlow is such an immensely talented vocalist. It makes me sad to think he does not sing ze metal any longer.
AsModEe
also known as ass-mode
true, but in what band would you see him perform? Definately not Iced Earth anymore, the next logic choice would be Nevermore (maybe), but hey, we all love WD too much for that. Biomechanical? Nah, their singer is excellent and fits the band perfectly. I seriously don't know where he could sing.
Chromatose
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AsModEe
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talking about Iced Earth, here's what Jon had to say about the Alive in Athens DVD:
ICED EARTH - Schaffer Disowns Live In Athens DVD
Added Friday, September 22
Added By: EvilG
Speaking exclusively to BW&BK, ICED EARTH guitarist/founder Jon Schaffer talked about the widely rumored and highly sought after Live In Athens DVD that will reportedly be issued next month.
While meant to coincide with Century Media's 15th anniversary on American soil, the long release of these dormant tapes doesn't sit well with Schaffer.
“We had discussed it earlier and I told them, 'No, it’s an obvious money grab. The footage isn’t any good. If it was, we would have done it years ago.' There were only three cameras. There was no crane. One camera was set up at the back of the auditorium. One guy was walking around in front of the stage and another on the stage. We all agreed, back in the day, that that show doesn’t warrant a professional DVD release. It’s not right. I think the fans will feel ripped off. That’s what I’m concerned with.
They sent me the trailer and it was pretty cool, so I thought it might be OK. Then they sent me the DVD, their edit. It’s bad! The last thing I told them was, ‘We can go back and re-edit this thing, with me there, to make it the best it can be, or you guys can put this thing out and I’m going to tell people the truth and not support it at all.’ The point is, they swear they’re going to keep the price low and tell everyone it’s not a high quality DVD release. That it’s a documentary of a point in the band’s career. I understand that, but I want people to know that this wasn’t done with my supervision, or permission. This is them, taking tapes that were originally done for a German TV program (Viva).
The ‘bonus’ footage is a joke. Me walking around town talking about the Acropolis and metal. The backstage footage they have is literally them standing there as I’m tying my shoes and Matt (Barlow, vocals) is doing an interview. It’s nothing, just footage. Anything they can add, maybe a minute and half long. The tour of Athens is maybe two minutes. There’s also three songs missing, where they were changing tapes or batteries died.
The edit, in some spots, is really bad. All it would have taken is someone who knows the songs better. There are effects you can do to slow the film down, tricks to eat up a little time until you get another good shot. Though that takes time and money. If they had done some of that stuff, I wouldn’t feel that bad about it.
I have a lot of good memories from those days, when Matt and Brent (Smedley, drums) were in the band. We had a lot of fun. It was a tight band. It was a very cool period of history to remember. I just don’t want people to feel like they’re getting ripped off.
I told Century Media that the fans’ reaction is going to decide whether I pursue a lawsuit. They think they have the right to put it out and I say they don’t. I don’t want to drag it through a long, expensive legal process to have someone interpret it, but if I get reaction that people think it’s a rip-off, I will probably pursue it (legally). My thing has always been to give the people the best possible product for the money. It’s an integrity issue.”
A full interview with Mr. Schaffer will be in an upcoming issue of BW&BK, where he discusses the status of writing and recording two albums worth concept material, plans for a legitimate Iced Earth DVD and changes in his outlook on life/music industry, since the birth of his daughter.
ICED EARTH - Schaffer Disowns Live In Athens DVD
Added Friday, September 22
Added By: EvilG
Speaking exclusively to BW&BK, ICED EARTH guitarist/founder Jon Schaffer talked about the widely rumored and highly sought after Live In Athens DVD that will reportedly be issued next month.
While meant to coincide with Century Media's 15th anniversary on American soil, the long release of these dormant tapes doesn't sit well with Schaffer.
“We had discussed it earlier and I told them, 'No, it’s an obvious money grab. The footage isn’t any good. If it was, we would have done it years ago.' There were only three cameras. There was no crane. One camera was set up at the back of the auditorium. One guy was walking around in front of the stage and another on the stage. We all agreed, back in the day, that that show doesn’t warrant a professional DVD release. It’s not right. I think the fans will feel ripped off. That’s what I’m concerned with.
They sent me the trailer and it was pretty cool, so I thought it might be OK. Then they sent me the DVD, their edit. It’s bad! The last thing I told them was, ‘We can go back and re-edit this thing, with me there, to make it the best it can be, or you guys can put this thing out and I’m going to tell people the truth and not support it at all.’ The point is, they swear they’re going to keep the price low and tell everyone it’s not a high quality DVD release. That it’s a documentary of a point in the band’s career. I understand that, but I want people to know that this wasn’t done with my supervision, or permission. This is them, taking tapes that were originally done for a German TV program (Viva).
The ‘bonus’ footage is a joke. Me walking around town talking about the Acropolis and metal. The backstage footage they have is literally them standing there as I’m tying my shoes and Matt (Barlow, vocals) is doing an interview. It’s nothing, just footage. Anything they can add, maybe a minute and half long. The tour of Athens is maybe two minutes. There’s also three songs missing, where they were changing tapes or batteries died.
The edit, in some spots, is really bad. All it would have taken is someone who knows the songs better. There are effects you can do to slow the film down, tricks to eat up a little time until you get another good shot. Though that takes time and money. If they had done some of that stuff, I wouldn’t feel that bad about it.
I have a lot of good memories from those days, when Matt and Brent (Smedley, drums) were in the band. We had a lot of fun. It was a tight band. It was a very cool period of history to remember. I just don’t want people to feel like they’re getting ripped off.
I told Century Media that the fans’ reaction is going to decide whether I pursue a lawsuit. They think they have the right to put it out and I say they don’t. I don’t want to drag it through a long, expensive legal process to have someone interpret it, but if I get reaction that people think it’s a rip-off, I will probably pursue it (legally). My thing has always been to give the people the best possible product for the money. It’s an integrity issue.”
A full interview with Mr. Schaffer will be in an upcoming issue of BW&BK, where he discusses the status of writing and recording two albums worth concept material, plans for a legitimate Iced Earth DVD and changes in his outlook on life/music industry, since the birth of his daughter.
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