In Flames - Graveland cover

Dude, back down the gain and treble a little bit.

Yeah I noticed that the TS was giving me a lot more gain than I thought. That's weird that the treble was too high though, the presence is on 5 and treble was on 6. :Smokin:


I have a problem making the treble "balanced". It's either too sharp or muffled.

I'll think I'll give it a retry manana. Thanks though :kickass:
 
Sounds ok. I don't know the original song, but some of the playing sounds kind of weird. If that is the feel of the song fair enough.
 
I've only been able to listen quietly so far but i'll give it another spin in the morning. The playing at the start especially has been butchered a bit dude- definitely sort that out before even worrying about having a good "mix". The guitars are sounding a touch muffled at the moment. The chorus bits for me are the best parts, the tone works nicely there. Good job on the interlude too :)

P.S

Drums are machine gunning a bit (fills)
 
Sounds ok. I don't know the original song, but some of the playing sounds kind of weird. If that is the feel of the song fair enough.

The song does indeed have a weird sort of timing, other than that, what do you think I could do to make it sound better?


I've only been able to listen quietly so far but i'll give it another spin in the morning. The playing at the start especially has been butchered a bit dude- definitely sort that out before even worrying about having a good "mix". The guitars are sounding a touch muffled at the moment. The chorus bits for me are the best parts, the tone works nicely there. Good job on the interlude too :)

P.S

Drums are machine gunning a bit (fills)

Are you saying my playing sounds sloppy? If so, you're right :goggly:. By muffled, do you mean lacking high end? I'm having a hard time finding a good balance of treble, because my last mix had apparently gotten too much high end. I rolled off around 13k this time, and last time I didn't roll off. Maybe I'll try a little in between to get some air? Also the tom fills, I'm using midi straight to APtrigga, and loading around 5 tom samples per tom. What can I do to make it sound less like a machine gun? Thank you
 
Thats a windsor?? Thats sounds great for $200 lol. the playin definetely needs a little tightening up, but I like the tone! Sounds pretty cool. Did you use a boost?
 
Thats a windsor?? Thats sounds great for $200 lol. the playin definetely needs a little tightening up, but I like the tone! Sounds pretty cool. Did you use a boost?


Thank you!

The amp was boosted with an Ibanez TS7, the cabinet is a 2x12 Avatar with V30's.
 
Hey guys, completely redid it, tell me what you think. I'm recording a band soon, I need to know my mixes are atleast semi up to par with some great guys around here :P.
 
Your guitars are definitely in need of some gain and your playing isn't exactly sloppy as much as it just sounds like your fretting-hand finger-independence needs some careful, focused attention. Your overall intonation and timing is light years beyond (what sounds like) your pinky/ring finger control on those opening melodies. Also some minor timing issues in the syncopated parts preceding the slower bridge section; possibly related to the aforementioned fretting independence.

As far as the mix itself, the guitars are overpowering your drums which are themselves a little dry and the bass is a little indistinct (which is a huge no-no with Colony/Clayman/Jester Race covers, for reference!), but it's definitely not bad compared to the original and the style in general.

Definitely try to work on bringing some clarity into the low-end of the mix. HP your guitars a bit more, spend some time with EQ/compression on the bass (especially the higher harmonic content, let a little grind poke through between the guitars), bring up the drums in the mix and please take some of the dryness out of the soon-to-be-much-more-prominent snare. In Flames from that era has a notoriously epic snare and I don't expect miracles, but I do expect it to suit such a highly melody-infused song such as this one, and not sound like a tomato thudding a tambourine covered in mud :p

Overall, moving toward good things. Keep practicing and, honestly, don't let not having a perfect recording/mix yet keep you from recording and mixing some of these great guys in your area -- the better the quality of the source material, the more it will tend to mix itself. I'd record every last one of them and get as much practice and variety of material as possible if I was serious about improving :rock:

EDIT: I realized upon re-reading I might have misunderstood what you meant by "great guys here"; my sleep-deprived morning brain figured you meant locally, but you probably meant on the forum. Either way, my comment is the same -- practice practice practice.
 
Wow, first of all let me thank you for the very informative/inspiring post. Definitely the best post I've read about anything in a while on this forum.


Generally, I've always had a problem with the snare stick out in the mix. I try boosting around 200, but I think it sounds like shit that way. I've tried cutting a lot of lows, but then it just sounds too snappy. Any tips on that? As for the guitars, I've always had a guitar "plateau", but I could never find the problem to break it. This could be the plateau breaker! What do you recommend to fix that problem? I'm probably going to reamp the guitars for more gain sometime this week, and the bass and dryness has been addressed in this mix right here, I hope.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1742937/Graveland2.mp3