Is a 7-sting is worth getting?

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I'm considering on getting a new guitar but i was thinking on getting a 7 string. The problem is that 7 strings are not popular anymore and I would have to custom order the guitar. I was planning on getting an Esp H-400 and have them customize it to a 7-sting. I play metal and rock music for the most part but i've been really getting into jazz/fusion music. Even though I can play metal quite well, I really want to develop a jazz/rock style of playing. The whole reason I wanted to get another string is because the low B string sounds awesome for metal, yet will it really be needed for jazz? So should I even bother getting a 7 string or not?

Speaking of jazz and fusion is there anyone that can give me some good names of jazz and fusion players/bands?

:headbang: Thanks :headbang:
 
If I get the Esp H-400 with its standard setup then it wil cost way less then if I were to get it customized in a 7 string. The guy at the music shop told me it would cost about $1400 bucks for the guitar if I add the extra string. The list price of the guitar is $800 bucks.Now is that because they have to make it from scratch or is he just telling me some BS.
 
The guy at the store said the companies dont make 7 strings anymore and they only make them for a special order now. The only guitars I saw was the signature series steve vai and korn 7 string guitars.
 
As far as 7 strings being appropriate for jazz, it wouldn't surprise me at all if 7 strings originated in jazz. I have been told as much. I mean there are jazz guitarsts like Charlie Hunter using 8 string guitars.
It's all a matter of whether or not you think you personally would gain from using one. There are no rules. If you can make the 7th string work for whatever style you want to play i say go for it.
 
Oh yeah and i'm not overly familiar with that many fusion bands, but i can strongly recommend you check out two of the more well known ones: Weather Report and Return to Forever. Awesome bands. Check out Allan Holdsworth as well if you haven't already.
 
Fleshbleed said:
The guy at the store said the companies dont make 7 strings anymore and they only make them for a special order now. The only guitars I saw was the signature series steve vai and korn 7 string guitars.
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Well, Ibanez does. They sadly don't really have any mid-level options though... it's basically a big hole between the cheapie crapster and the very expensive decent, but overpriced ones.

But if you live in the States, you should still be able to get a used RG7620 for almost nothing. The RG1527 is otherwise a pretty good option if you're not picky on what kind of "features" you want on your guitar.
 
how come none of these companies make "wizard" type necks anymore with no finish on the back. i got an Ibanez RG-770 i bought ages ago for like 450$ used (this was back in like 1994 maybe)... and its the sickest neck ive played to date for a large scale 24 fret 'metal' guitar.

from there on out, ibanez went down the toilet with their quality. all the S series flat body guitars were garbage (unless youre getting custom of course) and their pickups even lost quality. its just odd how different guitar quality has become since the decline of hair/thrash metal.

even the cheapo 7 strings ive tried out seemed to have played alright. if you find one you like just put in a new pick up and shred it... tune it up so the action is nice...
 
Well, before you go and shell out $2000+ for a custom ESP seven-string, you should check out your other options.

www.music123.com has 13 different seven-string guitars for sale off the shelf. Check them out here:

http://www.music123.com/Solid-Body-Electric-Guitars-7-String-d2957.music

Also, if you want a custom, Carvin is very good from what I've heard. I can say that they make the cheapest custom seven string guitars you'll find, and beyond that, the cheapest custom guitars in general you'll find. The base price for a custom seven-string from them is $750 (unless you don't want an extra single coil pickup, then it's $719). Depending on the options you want, it will still probably come to under 1000, unless you want features and a fancy paintjob. And you can send it back and have them build you another one if you're not satisfied with it. Just check out their forums.

I'm thinking about getting a custom Carvin if I decide to get a seven-string.
 
If you go to audiophileimports.com you can check out tons of fusion, both new and old school. They are the specialists. If you are a guitarist, I recommend Allan Holdsworth, Mike Stern, Scott Henderson, Wayne Krantz, John McLaughlin, Frank Gimbale, .... they also have samples to check out...
 
What's the difference between the Carvin DC727 and the DC747? All I saw was in the 747 had a single coil. anyone know which one is better?
 
Yeah....I'm pretty sure the only difference is that the 747 has a single coil.....also, if you want Active Electronics, you can only get those on the 727.
 
Go to www.sevenstring.org for questions concerning <a style='text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 3px double;' href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=22&k=7%20string%20guitars" onmouseover="window.status='7-string guitars'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;">7-string guitars</a>. There's a wealth of knowledge there.

Also, check out www.drumcityguitarland.com for the best selection in new QUALITY 7-strings. Not to mention, you can also find some cool axes on Ebay.

Currently, I own an neck-thru ESP LTD SC-607 & an Ibanez RG7321. Both are SUPERB instruments & are available to buy new in many online shops. These guitars are every bit as good as the more expensive 7-strings suck as the Ibanez Universe. Trust me, I've owned over 30 7-strings in my day. Don't listen to your guy at the <a style='text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 3px double;' href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=22&k=music%20store" onmouseover="window.status='music store'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;">music store</a>. There are plenty of 7-strings to check out, albeit, not as many as a few years ago. Due to the decline in popularity, most <a style='text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 3px double;' href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=22&k=guitar" onmouseover="window.status='guitar'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;">guitar</a> shops aren't carrying them in stock, but they are available for special order.
 
What Revsharp said, although I'm not an Ibanez fan, myself. I have a Jackson Soloist 7 (that hurt, but it's the best 7 I've played) and a Washburn USA Sonic 7. There are good options out there - the Schecters, in particular, are excellent guitars for the money, and the new Jackson Wohlers model looks pretty good, although I wish they'd made it neck-thru.

I've heard mixed reviews on the tonality of the Carvins, but the one I played was pretty nice. Choose woods carefully if you go that route, though, and know that changing the pickups out will cost you 'cause they're a non-standard size.

(For the record, my Jackson 7 is my main guitar, and I was heasitant about going the 7 string route full-time before I bought it. A good guitar makes a huge difference in this case.)
 
I am thinking of getting a Carvin 7 String with either all Koa or Mahogany for the wood. Now I did hear that I might wanna change my pickups because carvin uses their own pickups and I might not like the sound of them. I hear that a Dimarzio Evolution 7 is a good replacement for the bridge pickup, but I'm not that familiar with all the pickups and how they sound. Any sugggestions on certain pickups I might wanna look into? I wanted to have a nice heavy low end sound (for metal) but is still good shred guitar as well. Also I really wanna have a nice warm clean tone as well. At the end I'm gonna be spending about $800-$1000 for this guitar. I really want to get this as perfect as I can get it for me.

Thanks for your help guys
 
Fleshbleed said:
I am thinking of getting a Carvin 7 String with either all Koa or Mahogany for the wood. Now I did hear that I might wanna change my pickups because carvin uses their own pickups and I might not like the sound of them. I hear that a Dimarzio Evolution 7 is a good replacement for the bridge pickup, but I'm not that familiar with all the pickups and how they sound. Any sugggestions on certain pickups I might wanna look into? I wanted to have a nice heavy low end sound (for metal) but is still good shred guitar as well. Also I really wanna have a nice warm clean tone as well. At the end I'm gonna be spending about $800-$1000 for this guitar. I really want to get this as perfect as I can get it for me.

Thanks for your help guys
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I'd say a maple through block w/mahogany wings and an ebony board would do it, tonally - good mix of bright and fat. I'm a fan of Seymour Duncans over the DiMarzios for heavier metal. My Jackson (maple/alder, ebony board) has a JB 7 and a Jazz 7, and my Washburn (maple neck/mahogany body, maple board) has a Custom 7 and a '59 7. The 'Burn originally had a Distortion 7, but I really disliked that - all bright, no tone - so I switched it out.

I'd say the Custom would be a good choice if you go with mahogany/maple - there's something about that PU that works really well with that wood, as it also sounds great in Les Pauls, but be warned - the Carvin pickups aren't "standard" sized, so you may have to route it a bit.
 
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