Is it Rockstar to smash the Guitar Hero Guitar before I even use it???
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TheWhisper
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booB
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Evil
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I got Guitar Hero I and II for xmas - a friend of mine donated his PS2 to me in November along with the axe, but he had no games as they had been stolen by movers. I actually learned how to play on the regular controller first, as I was out of town for the holiday, and then started on the axe.
...that Queens of the Stone Age track is a BITCH even on easy!
...that Queens of the Stone Age track is a BITCH even on easy!
My son just blew through The White Zombie track, not even playing it or hearing it previously. I think the boy's got talent! (But aren't all parents supposed to say that?)
His first rock star move:
His shirt is inspired by Nigel: Now that I think about it, that picture is so priceless you can't even look at it!
-Metal
His first rock star move:
His shirt is inspired by Nigel: Now that I think about it, that picture is so priceless you can't even look at it!
-Metal
BlackRoseMetalHeart
Metal Mistress
Looks like he's having a lot of fun. Just hope that the toy doesn't ruin his chances for true rockstar-dom.
I've heard many an actual guitar player say that they cannot play this game due to the fact that it is nothing like where your fingers should actually be positioned if you would really wanted to play any of the songs on the game. I don't know personally, but I would imagine that the more you train your fingers to play for color/hand/eye coordination purposes for a video game, the harder it would be to re-train your hands to learn the actual positioning for notes and chords on a real guitar to make music.
I realize Guitar Hero is just a game, but someone should make "The REAL Guitar Hero" where you actually plug in a real guitar and actually play music. Then they can start having real competitions for folks to win money, instead of all this crap of people playing a video game and winning more money than a house band makes in one night.
[Ok, sorry, END RANT]
nailz
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rockyracoon
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I've heard many an actual guitar player say that they cannot play this game due to the fact that it is nothing like where your fingers should actually be positioned if you would really wanted to play any of the songs on the game. I don't know personally, but I would imagine that the more you train your fingers to play for color/hand/eye coordination purposes for a video game, the harder it would be to re-train your hands to learn the actual positioning for notes and chords on a real guitar to make music.
I realize Guitar Hero is just a game, but someone should make "The REAL Guitar Hero" where you actually plug in a real guitar and actually play music. Then they can start having real competitions for folks to win money, instead of all this crap of people playing a video game and winning more money than a house band makes in one night.
That's just ridiculous. I've been playing since GH1(most times with other musicians) and this is the first I've heard of it messing with someone's ability to play a real guitar. And, if that were the case, perhaps they weren't too good to begin with.
The idea of making a game where you plug in a REAL guitar and actually play music is already out...and it's called a REAL guitar and you plug into an an amp.
Where is the rationale behind getting upset at people playing a video game because it somehow negatively affects real musicians? It's not like they're stealing fans or anything.
BlackRoseMetalHeart
Metal Mistress
I would imagine that the better you are at playing an actual guitar, the more it is second nature for you to want to move your fingers like you would actually play a particular song when you hear that song, regardless of what the colors on a screen are telling your hand to do. (I expect a person who plays real guitar to look more realistic playing "air guitar" for this very reason - their hands/fingers are trained to move in the proper ways.) One of the guys that I spoke to that had this sort of trouble with Guitar Hero, knows how to play guitar, bass, and drums and is pretty proficient in all of them.
I'm not mad at anyone who plays the game. (I'm sorry, but I didn't mean for it to come across that way.) I'm no good a video games or playing guitar, so more power to anyone who wants to do either (or both). I can say that the few times that I played Guitar Hero, the coordination for hitting the various color buttons seemed out of time with the song, at least to my ears/eyes, but as I said I'm not a video game guru by any means.
And there are competitions that I've heard of venues holding (I believe Baltimore's Ottobar had one or two) where you can sign up to compete to play Guitar Hero and the winner gets a cash prize. Nothing wrong with that, but I think it's a little sad when an individual is getting paid $500 bucks or whatever to play a video game, when the house band in the same bar probably wouldn't make that amount to split between the four or five of their members.
That's very different from it hurting his playing ability on a real guitar. It works differently for various people. My friend can play guitar and she's 100x better than I am at the game because of it. A person who sucks at games isn't going to automatically pick up GH and get it right away simply because they can play a real guitar. You have to have the ability to tossing out the "I know it should be played this way" and just playing a game for what it is. I've played the game with the sound off before. Having guitar skills would help me with the faster pulloffs and hammerons and what not but my mind still needs to be able to quickly understand when to press red, blue, green, orange, or yellow. Just like you need to know where the a, b, x, y, triangle, circle, or whatever button is on a regular controller.
Are we next going to bring up how WiiSports has ruined the careers of professional baseball players, golfers, tennis stars, and bowelers because the wiimote isn't 100% perfect?
And if you're worried over someone getting $500 for GH, I probably shouldn't bring up people who make their living on playing video games, having sponsors, and winning tournaments with the top prize as high as a million. Starcraft players in South Korea are gods. Here's a match that was broadcast on tv there.
RiffDaemon
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It was a bitch-kitty going from real guitar to GH the first time I started playing. My fingers are pretty nimble and I'm a damned good videogamer (20+ years), but I used to go into fits when those orange notes came my way. I also agree that if you know the song on guitar, it feels weird on Guitar Hero - several times I've cursed the notechart because it didn't make sense as compared to the original song. But if you sit down with it on Easy, play all the way through the career, go to Medium, play all the way through, etc. etc. up to Expert, then you get used to the game mechanics to the point where you're playing to the colors being thrown at you, not the song. I've had a blast ever since
Now as for GH dulling your ability on real guitar, that's only about .. oh .. 5% true for me. After a GH session, my hands are used to that abominable strum bar; but after a good 5 minutes with a real pick, I'm back into real-axe-mode.
Same with the fret hand: a couple o' runs through a scale and some arpeggios and those fingers are happy to go vertical again!
So! I wouldn't let GH-to-guitar transitions be an issue
I've never played guitar. I can make it through Easy fine, and when I got to Medium, I found that reaching for the blue was challenging at first, but I'm picking it up fairly quickly - when it comes to single notes.
Those multiple combination notes, though, are fucking me up bigtime with the addition of blue. I simply cannot make my fingers slide from green-yellow to red-blue and then to red-yellow and not totally bork it. Message In A Bottle on medium made me want to put the axe through the table in frustration. (I looked at one song on Hard and LAUGHED.)
Those multiple combination notes, though, are fucking me up bigtime with the addition of blue. I simply cannot make my fingers slide from green-yellow to red-blue and then to red-yellow and not totally bork it. Message In A Bottle on medium made me want to put the axe through the table in frustration. (I looked at one song on Hard and LAUGHED.)
eaeolian
Division Guitarist
Rev. Clayton
The Singer
Rev. Clayton
The Singer
Now as for GH dulling your ability on real guitar, that's only about .. oh .. 5% true for me. After a GH session, my hands are used to that abominable strum bar; but after a good 5 minutes with a real pick, I'm back into real-axe-mode.
Same with the fret hand: a couple o' runs through a scale and some arpeggios and those fingers are happy to go vertical again!
So! I wouldn't let GH-to-guitar transitions be an issue
I use a pick on the GH controller and it works wonders...try it sometime.
eaeolian
Division Guitarist
Oh, it's a killer game, it's just nothing like being in a real band, as you well know.
For one thing, it doesn't smell bad.
BlackRoseMetalHeart
Metal Mistress
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