Is this a good idea in an apartment?

[Loren Littlejohn]

Electric Drumset + DKFHS or EZD. Controlled via midi on drum module.

 

[Benny H]

It's a better idea than a real drumkit.

Can't see what could possibly make it a bad idea.............

I have a really cheap electronic kit, the module has a midi out though, and it triggers pretty faithfully for the most part... so.. it's great to have. I monitor through the actual module sounds though(when recording the midi data), as I can't get down to zero latency through system and sampler.

 

[Loren Littlejohn]

Yeah I have noticed slight latency on my system too but not so bad that it is intollerable.

I tried BFD (yuck) demo today with a Yamaha dd-55c and it worked great, but the triggers are horrible.

 

[Loren Littlejohn]

do you shift the sounds to deal with the latency in post production?

 

[Benny H]

No because the midi recording goes down where it should, there's no latency with that info being recorded, so therefore it plays back correctly also(when you send that midi track to a plug-in).

I don't even have a software sampler loaded when recording the midi.. just an armed midi track. Worry about the final sounds it'll trigger later.

It's only when you want to trigger and monitor the actual sampler in real time that the latency is an issue. It has to be basically zero then.

 

[Kazrog]

The biggest issue is the kick pedals. Try stomping on the floor over and over, and see if it bothers your neighbors before you actually buy a v-drum kit or one of its competitors. If it is too much noise/force, you can build or buy a foam platform for your kit.

 

[Loren Littlejohn]

My neibor is cool. I'll just ask him sometime... Not into pissing anyone off.

 

[Loren Littlejohn]

Also, I did a little test of my own with BFD demo. I incrementally increased the velocity data from 5 to 127 on the snare drum and all I hear is 5 different samples. Does EZ drummer and DKFHS respond to velocity better? they are kind of worthless too cause from 5 to 27 it's this faint rimshot then it's this really light hit, then it's a harder rimshot, then it's a full on blow, then it's the full on blow only louder. When playing it just didn't sound that convincing (not that I was even considering BFD).

 

[marcust]

The biggest issue is the kick pedals. Try stomping on the floor over and over, and see if it bothers your neighbors before you actually buy a v-drum kit or one of its competitors. If it is too much noise/force, you can build or buy a foam platform for your kit.

yeah man also own a vdrum kit from roland but when you use double bass parts (like i use often) it will drive your neighbours crazy trust me.

 

[Ben Johnson]

If I had the room for a e-drumkit, I'd probably DIY it and hook it up to a TD10 or something, monitor off that, record the midi into the computer, and playback with DFHS. Or get a better computer/soundcard that doesn't have a noticeable amount of latency.

 

[Loren Littlejohn]

Seriously my neibor is cool. He is loud to, it just comes down to when it's ok to be loud

 

[cobhc]

Seriously my neibor is cool. He is loud to, it just comes down to when it's ok to be loud

Yeah, set a time like 4PM or whatever when you're gonna play for like a few hours each day, and tell him in advance.

 

[Soundlurker]

You can achieve good results with this combination. You'll probably have to do some serious editing, though. Depends on the drums, I guess. We have a cheap drumpad (Yamaha DD55 ~200euro) which has some issues like weird dynamics, double hits or missing ones but it produces a decent result, really. Good thing about midi - you can edit it forever. Cymbals will probably end up sounding a bit unnatural though. You can hear our song Burning Bridges which is recorded with the drumpad : here