Kreator - Extreme Aggression snare

[Ermz]

I was just browing youtube the other day when I ran into one of my favourite metal clips of old... Kreator's 'Betrayer'. It hit me right then and there that this was the snare sound I've been searching for. I know that I occassionally hear Kreator pull this sound (on the rockpalast bootleg for instance) but I have absolutely no idea what sort of snare it is, nor what treatment is being done to it.

If anyone can help out, in terms of listing some snare models as a starting point, that'd be fantastic.

Btw, the clip is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fw8VNA2e2Ro

 

[cobhc]

Can't offer any help, but man I love old school Kreator.

 

[Suicide_As_Alibi]

I don't know what snare that is or anything, but I can get a similar sound from my drummer's Tama (it's a brass 14" x 5 1/2" I think) - on recordings I just scooping a couple of dbs around 300-400Hz, and it sounds pretty close to that. You have to be careful about killing the attack though, so you need the snare tuned right or it's impossible to get it to stand out.

Steve

 

[metalkingdom]

I have absolutely no idea what sort of snare it is, nor what treatment is being done to it.

2" tape for starters.

I think that I still remember all of the lyrics from "Betrayer".

 

[smy1]

2" tape for starters.

I think that I still remember all of the lyrics from "Betrayer".

Yea, me too. And all lyrics from the whole Extreme Aggressions and Terrible Certainty albums ... it's insane how long stuff gets stuck in your head when you listened to it religiously at a young age!

 

[MartysPooh]

Do I spy a Bad Religion T shirt?!

 

[sparkyness]

I remember being 14 and brainwashing my 3 year old sister with Kreator. She used to sit in front of the tv watching the video for Betrayor all day. Kreator...the heavy metal teletubbies.

 

[Nebulous]

I was just browing youtube the other day when I ran into one of my favourite metal clips of old... Kreator's 'Betrayer'. It hit me right then and there that this was the snare sound I've been searching for. I know that I occassionally hear Kreator pull this sound (on the rockpalast bootleg for instance) but I have absolutely no idea what sort of snare it is, nor what treatment is being done to it.

If anyone can help out, in terms of listing some snare models as a starting point, that'd be fantastic.

Btw, the clip is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fw8VNA2e2Ro

Cool, I have that Rockpalast bootleg. Does anyone know if the drummer uses different snares for live and recording (especially on the recent albums)? Listening to the clip and Enemy of god, they don't sound very dissimilar. The EoG snare just sounds brighter to me, so they could be the same model drum.

 

[Ermz]

They don't sound too similar to me. Although that could well be because Betrayer has more room sound than verb on it. Drums sound tons more natural because of it.

 

[Nebulous]

Yeah. That seemed to be the biggest difference to me, the different verb/ room tone, and the EoG one being brighter while the Betrayer one was a bit more boxy/ duller. Unfortunately the Kretor website doesn't list Ventor's kit. It sais something in German which I can't understand.

 

[smy1]

Yeah. That seemed to be the biggest difference to me, the different verb/ room tone, and the EoG one being brighter while the Betrayer one was a bit more boxy/ duller. Unfortunately the Kretor website doesn't list Ventor's kit. It sais something in German which I can't understand.

It only says
"Equipment: anything I can hit"

 

[cobhc]

Didn't he use the studio kit when they recorded EoG? Maybe Andy can pitch in here.

 

[Ermz]

Sounds like the studio kit to me.

 

[Nebulous]

Didn't he use the studio kit when they recorded EoG? Maybe Andy can pitch in here.

That would make things easier. Otherwise Ventor is welcome to join the forum :Smokin:

 

[Ermz]

Damnit, it's killing me. Watching the rockpalast bootleg... that man seriously has the best thrash metal snare in existence. *crack crack crack* screw triggers.

 

[Nebulous]

I'm sure Andy's busy, but if it's getting to you that much you could PM him to see if he can offer any help- see if Ventor used the studio kit on EoG or if Andy knows what his live kit is.