L.O.G Mark IV settings?
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Sinister Mephisto
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I would just twist until you get something close, as they apparently don't use anything between the guitars and the amps. Or if you're feeling particularly desperate, you can go through the studio documentary on the DVD that came with Sacrament and see if you can get a shot of the heads.
Descent
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there was one of those set up diagram things in the back of a guitar mag a while back for mark morton (or what ever his name is). that would be his live settings but i'd assume similar to what they use in studio. sinister is right he had 2 mk4's one was a fairly traditional scooped setting, the other was very middy.
I'd have thought that if u had the bass, mid , treb set to 12 o clock (maybe bass up a bit more) and the gain down low like they do it'd sound v similar.
and they use seymours so that'd be key as well.
I'd have thought that if u had the bass, mid , treb set to 12 o clock (maybe bass up a bit more) and the gain down low like they do it'd sound v similar.
and they use seymours so that'd be key as well.
Also the studio sound isn't just the Mark IV. I believe I read that the sound was roughly 70% Mark IV, 20% another amp that I can't remember off the top of my head, and 10% DI'd guitar.
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The mix in the studio was Mark IV, Marshall JTM 45 (old 4-input non-master volume Marshall; it actually pre-dates the Super Lead) and SansAmp.
For those who aren't familiar with the Mark IV, the controls interact in a way that's very different than other amps. It has a ton of midrange that more or less can't be dialed out using the mid knob on the amp, and it can be very dark unless the treble's set high. Even then, it's not bright or scooped without the graphic EQ. And the actual bass control on the amp gets muddy real quick; again, it's best to use the graphic to dial in the bass.
It's a very strange amp as far as its controls are concerned, and you probably need to work the graphic EQ in conjunction with the tone controls to get the most out of it. But it's a versatile, great sounding amp regardless.
For those who aren't familiar with the Mark IV, the controls interact in a way that's very different than other amps. It has a ton of midrange that more or less can't be dialed out using the mid knob on the amp, and it can be very dark unless the treble's set high. Even then, it's not bright or scooped without the graphic EQ. And the actual bass control on the amp gets muddy real quick; again, it's best to use the graphic to dial in the bass.
It's a very strange amp as far as its controls are concerned, and you probably need to work the graphic EQ in conjunction with the tone controls to get the most out of it. But it's a versatile, great sounding amp regardless.
Executioner213
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From what I've dug up on my Triaxis, it reacts like this too, execpt there isn't really a graphic EQ, but a "Dynamic Voice" setting (I don't actually remember, it's at my practice space), and its the same except it's pre-dialed graphic eq settings that you just select by number, if I'm correct.
I'm not the pro at knob tweaking, I just play with shit until it sounds good
I'm not the pro at knob tweaking, I just play with shit until it sounds good
KillDivision
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Exocaster said:
Mark II's, III's en IV's are easy once you know the trick.
The tonepots on those amps work like an eq-pedal (ge-7) IN FRONT of an amp. Supertight Hetfield chuggachugga is bass on zero, mid and treble to 10.
At last you dail in the graphic 5-band eq.
Just direct with a little overdrive I think. You can definetly hear it on "Ashes...", not sure about "Sacrament"cobhc said:
Ola Englund
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Hmmm what's so special about their sound? I've never liked the guitarsound on their albums, maybe it's better live.
The Killadelphia DVD shows settings on Adler's IV if I remember right. I couldn't make out where the tone pots were set, but the graphic EQ was heavily scooped.
With the IVs that I owned I kept the mids on the pots high, around 7 or so, and scooped the graphic a bit.
Virtually any setting on the IV will give you the Lamb of God tone, since that woody, middy tone doesn't go away no matter what settings you use...which is the signature sound of LoG.
I should have kept my last IV. Oh well, I'll probably look to buy a Mesa .50 Caliber here soon.
With the IVs that I owned I kept the mids on the pots high, around 7 or so, and scooped the graphic a bit.
Virtually any setting on the IV will give you the Lamb of God tone, since that woody, middy tone doesn't go away no matter what settings you use...which is the signature sound of LoG.
I should have kept my last IV. Oh well, I'll probably look to buy a Mesa .50 Caliber here soon.
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KillDivision said:
This is true. I used to have a Mark IV; aren't the tone controls pre-gain? I always kept the bass pretty low on mine- most people who use 'em do- and had the mids and treble up high. I think that's the only amp I ever cranked the treble on.
CJWall
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It's unique, tight, and punchy and it fits them. Their whole production plays to their strengths: extremely tight, technical playing and it translates very well to their live show.Goddamn Guitar said:
Ola Englund
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gumplunger said:
It might be tight but isn't that the player being good? I was referring to the sound, it sounds like they miced a cardboardbox cabinet.
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I'm with you, their sound is nothing special, even bad for my liking, the only thing I reckon is they are bloody tight players...kinda slayerGoddamn Guitar said:
man, i love the guitarsound of as the pallaces burn! it'a insanly raw, something that a lot of modern metal productions lack in my opinion...
The "cardboard box" sound is just the sound of the Mark IV's. It's a love it or hate it thing I suppose.Goddamn Guitar said:
And you can have a really tight, good player but if you run it through an amp even as good as a Dual Rec you're going to lose a lot of string attack and the feel of the player, where as if you record with something with less gain and less of the "fat" you'll hear more of the player than the amp, which works for them.
If they were playing mid-tempo chugga-chugga powerchord metalcore, that guitar sound wouldn't work at all, and neither would the drum sound most likely.
