LINE 6 HD147

When you read the manual, you find that Line6 has done a lot of extra functions on the knobs for different models. They don't necessary do exactly what the knob say. On the "Insane" model the drive is like a fuzz at 0, regular dist at 5 and "Vox-style" OD at 10. Set the floorboard pedal to control the Drive knob from 0-10 and you get an interesting distortion freakshow.

It's an interesting approach IMO ;)
 
Kazrog said:
It all depends on how you dial it and who's playing through it. I can dial in some really plastic, fake, digital sounding tones on the HD147 and make it sound really awful if I want to, also. In fact, a good portion of the presets I would describe that way, but probably at least 50% of them are decent. Screw presets, though, it's all about dialing in your own sounds on these amps!

Right now I'm using the Criminal model and it is very convincing. It sounds close enough to real tubes that I could be fooled in a blindfold test, at least in the room. I will record clips as soon as I can, I think I would have to mic the cab to do it justice, as the direct out just sounds like a POD (not bad, but not quite realistic.)
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I 'm not knocking the amp man. I just don't like modelers. I perfer to play the real thing. Call me old fashion but I'm old school . I can see why these types of amps are so popluar. They get you close and for most people close is good enough. I gre up on fender tube amps and when I hear modeled fender amps, they don't even come close. None of them. THe HD147 is pretty cool just not for me. the 6505 tone I feel it doesn't have right. There is a certain tone and feel the 6505 or 5150 amps all have and I don't hear it in the HD147. It's been awhile since I played a Line 6 amp. Nect time I'm in the store, I will try again.

Dan
 
WOW....... i just looked up the price and thats insane I'm sure it sounds decent but fuck come on 1200.00:zombie:

Id much rather get a real amp for that kinda cash:rock:
 
:lol: .......look out 300 watts of line6 power

I meant real amp as in the one it try to model. Personally i would rather have a 5150 for the same price then something that models it:goggly:

Just my opinion but I'm sure its still a decent amp!
 
Hi there!

I've had my HD147 for a few months now and I've developed a love/hate relationship with it. Having said that, I think taking the time to getting to know the HD147 is the key getting some decent tones out of it.

I've noticed that on my small to mid sized venue gigs, it performs good enough, but sometimes the tone is just not there. I have a different set up that I use for the big places.

I think the more you work with it the better chances get that you can nail a sweet tone. I'm sticking with it. I like the simplicty of just plugging straight into the amp and using my longboard to control it.

Just spend some time with it!! :grin:
 
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I'd like to clarify my earlier comments and put them in context. When I said "in the room" I really did mean in a crappy jam room or a live gig context. Obviously under studio scrutiny there's miles of difference between the Line 6 modeling and real tubes. I also should clarify that my main live cabinet was (and still is) a Line 6 Vetta 4x12, which is a decent cabinet but nothing I'd likely use in the studio. It's my "beater" cab and it's great for gigging - at least until I finish another new product I'm working on...

These days I'm actually gigging with a 5150 II into the Line 6 4x12 (which is infrequent jam gigs with a few friends, as my main band, Backmask, is looking for a drummer once again) because I definitely prefer the sound of tubes and I sold my HD147 a couple of years ago. That said - the convenience of the HD147 is hard to beat, the tones and FX are truly great, and it is (in my opinion) still by far the best amp Line 6 has released.
 
I would never use a digital amp for recording purposes. However, Solid State amps are so much lighter and more reliable. I hate towing around heavy ass tube amps to practice, and then have to worry about tubes and replacing tubes which is expensive. My rehearsal rig has been my Genz Benz 212 and my Spider II HD150. I would love to have a 147 or any other decent modeling amp to get more power and to even play shows with. In the end when it is tiem to record, modeling amps still don't compare.

OT: What the hell happened to Line 6's line in terms of real amps, Only thing they have anymore are the Spiders, Spider Valve, and DT50. Like seriously, what the fuck happened to old school physical amps in a head? Yeah you have the rack mount POD's but you have to get a rack and a power amp which is heavy, less convenient and annoying. There is nothing more convenient than a light weight, yet powerful practice/rehearsal modeling amp in head form. I am sorry but the Spider series really isn't a good candidate for an all solid state modeling amp for the gigging musician. They really need to make the POD X3 in head form.
 
TheWinterSnow said:
I would never use a digital amp for recording purposes. However, Solid State amps are so much lighter and more reliable. I hate towing around heavy ass tube amps to practice, and then have to worry about tubes and replacing tubes which is expensive. My rehearsal rig has been my Genz Benz 212 and my Spider II HD150. I would love to have a 147 or any other decent modeling amp to get more power and to even play shows with. In the end when it is tiem to record, modeling amps still don't compare.

OT: What the hell happened to Line 6's line in terms of real amps, Only thing they have anymore are the Spiders, Spider Valve, and DT50. Like seriously, what the fuck happened to old school physical amps in a head? Yeah you have the rack mount POD's but you have to get a rack and a power amp which is heavy, less convenient and annoying. There is nothing more convenient than a light weight, yet powerful practice/rehearsal modeling amp in head form. I am sorry but the Spider series really isn't a good candidate for an all solid state modeling amp for the gigging musician. They really need to make the POD X3 in head form.
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The Spider II and III use POD 2.0 modeling technology.
You're a little late to the game on the X3 in head form, as that is what the Spider IV and Valve MKII essentially are.
Stripped down feature wise, yes, but it is X3 modeling tech
 
TheWinterSnow said:
What the hell happened to Line 6's line in terms of real amps, Only thing they have anymore are the Spiders, Spider Valve, and DT50. Like seriously, what the fuck happened to old school physical amps in a head? Yeah you have the rack mount POD's but you have to get a rack and a power amp which is heavy, less convenient and annoying. There is nothing more convenient than a light weight, yet powerful practice/rehearsal modeling amp in head form. I am sorry but the Spider series really isn't a good candidate for an all solid state modeling amp for the gigging musician. They really need to make the POD X3 in head form.
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Agreed. A Vetta III or HD147 MkII would be nice, and there would certainly be a market for it. I've heard that the current generation Spider heads are using the Vetta II modeling tech. I've hated just about every Spider I've heard, but the new ones might be decent. I think I'd still rather snag an old Vetta, though.

My guess as to the lack of non-Spider heads is that it's because they seem to have shifted their target demographic largely from professional and semi-professional gigging musicians to the more "affordable" side of the spectrum. It's sad to see that in the company that did so much to make amp modeling a real and viable solution, but it can't be helped, I suppose.
 
Harry Hughes said:
The Spider II and III use POD 2.0 modeling technology.
You're a little late to the game on the X3 in head form, as that is what the Spider IV and Valve MKII essentially are.
Stripped down feature wise, yes, but it is X3 modeling tech
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Not what I meant. I know that the Spiders where based off the POD series. However they are very stripped down version of them. The HD147 was the POD 2.0 in its full glory, all the features, nothing stripped down, in head form.

TomAwesome said:
Agreed. A Vetta III or HD147 MkII would be nice, and there would certainly be a market for it. I've heard that the current generation Spider heads are using the Vetta II modeling tech. I've hated just about every Spider I've heard, but the new ones might be decent. I think I'd still rather snag an old Vetta, though.

My guess as to the lack of non-Spider heads is that it's because they seem to have shifted their target demographic largely from professional and semi-professional gigging musicians to the more "affordable" side of the spectrum. It's sad to see that in the company that did so much to make amp modeling a real and viable solution, but it can't be helped, I suppose.
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More affordable side of the spectrum...what the hell was the Flextone :lol:? Hell the POD X3 is almost the same price as a new HD147 was. The Flextone, Duoverb and 147 models where very affordable for being what I would consider professional gear aimed for the working musician. Looks like they aren't aiming for anything other than home recording, as if they totally said we don't give a shit about the gigging musicians anymore, we would much rather deal with bedroom kiddies and on our Bogner tube amps. I have no problems with them doing tube amps with bogner, but when the only pure SS amp they leave you left with is a Spider IV, sorry, not a gigging amp for the professional musician.
 
I thought the HD147 had the POD XT technology, not the POD 2.0?
That's why it has all the hi-gain amps that are in the metal pack for the XT.

Played it a few times, would work quite well for me, but there are better amps
out there, I am digging the Peavy Vypyr Tube 120 head for hi-gain sounds.
Seems to be a cool, cheap, modelling amp-but, there are always better amps
out there ;)
 
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