Live vs. recorded question
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smy1
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Things like high/low pass filters and the different amp settings for live/recorded. Pretty muc hany of the processing that makes a recorded mix clear.
smy1
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At a certain level of professionalism they do. Just look at the behind-the-scenes footage of Metallica/Rammstein/Dream Theater/etc. equipment setups.
Also, very often it isn't necessary for the enjoyment of a live concert that everything is crystal clear ...
Also, very often it isn't necessary for the enjoyment of a live concert that everything is crystal clear ...
Ah. Ok. The reason I asked is because the more my band started setting things up how we would for recording the better our mix has become. Guitar/bass wise, a lot of the local bands I go to see will have a nice tone when they are doing sound check and you hear each individual instrument but it's a bunch of mush when they all come in together. With the way my band is doing things now none of our sounds would strike anyone as great but you can clearly hear what each instrument is doing. But I do see what you are saying about the enjoyment of a live show.
And thanks for the rather quick responses.
And thanks for the rather quick responses.
Torniojaws
They call me Juha
In recording/studio you always (well, mostly) have the best possible acoustics in the mix and recording rooms. You simply do not have that convenience at live venues where the acoustics and bass trapping range from barely acceptable to complete crap. Not to mention every venue you go to has entirely different acoustics and frequency spikes/drops. That's why live mixing is completely different than studio mixing. Also, in a studio you have a rough idea what you usually should cut/boost/HPF/LPF from each instrument, but you can't tell at all in different live settings. Not to mention once the crowd comes in, you will have a completely different frequency range due to humans being both a diffusor and absorber. Depending on how many people are there and where they stand/sit, you will have completely different high frequencies.
Basically you could compare it to trying to mix a song in a studio while the room you are in changes shape constantly and somebody is moving a master EQ HPF slider around all the time to random places. Oh and each musician you recorded keeps turning their own fader up. Yeah, and every instrument leaks to every mic you have on. And finally, the crowd is constantly drowning your monitoring out by screaming and a state official is ready to shut down the place if you go beyond 85 dB RMS (the crowd is still yelling at 95 - 100 dB)
Fun, eh?
Basically you could compare it to trying to mix a song in a studio while the room you are in changes shape constantly and somebody is moving a master EQ HPF slider around all the time to random places. Oh and each musician you recorded keeps turning their own fader up. Yeah, and every instrument leaks to every mic you have on. And finally, the crowd is constantly drowning your monitoring out by screaming and a state official is ready to shut down the place if you go beyond 85 dB RMS (the crowd is still yelling at 95 - 100 dB)
Fun, eh?
Haha.
One of my friends has a notebook with the settings he uses for clubs/venues that his band frequents. I think that would be a pretty good idea if you know how you are going to sound in a particular place.
One of my friends has a notebook with the settings he uses for clubs/venues that his band frequents. I think that would be a pretty good idea if you know how you are going to sound in a particular place.
Djabthrash
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In recording/studio you always (well, mostly) have the best possible acoustics in the mix and recording rooms. You simply do not have that convenience at live venues where the acoustics and bass trapping range from barely acceptable to complete crap. Not to mention every venue you go to has entirely different acoustics and frequency spikes/drops. That's why live mixing is completely different than studio mixing. Also, in a studio you have a rough idea what you usually should cut/boost/HPF/LPF from each instrument, but you can't tell at all in different live settings. Not to mention once the crowd comes in, you will have a completely different frequency range due to humans being both a diffusor and absorber. Depending on how many people are there and where they stand/sit, you will have completely different high frequencies.
Basically you could compare it to trying to mix a song in a studio while the room you are in changes shape constantly and somebody is moving a master EQ HPF slider around all the time to random places. Oh and each musician you recorded keeps turning their own fader up. Yeah, and every instrument leaks to every mic you have on. And finally, the crowd is constantly drowning your monitoring out by screaming and a state official is ready to shut down the place if you go beyond 85 dB RMS (the crowd is still yelling at 95 - 100 dB)
Fun, eh?
funny explanation
Fivestringcult
Yam puddled, our kid.
Never done any live mixing myself, but I've been told that most things are done in mono so that they can be heard wherever you are in the room. (IE: You have two guitarists, one either side of the stage. If you pan them left and right as you probably would in a studio recording, the people stood to the left will struggle to hear the guitarist on the right, and vice-versa.) Makes sense.
Loren Littlejohn
Lover of all boobage.
Sloan
Sounds like shit!
