lots of people were saying the replacement drummer didnt use dubble bass in deliverence , but i filmed it on my phone and after i filltered the sound i can say he did use dubble bass.
London gig on the 8th seo
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Kir-ir-Bannog
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well it wasn't clear......it just sounded to me like one of the microphones was not working properly or that one was really quiet....and not just deliverance either, in most of the tracks it sounded like:
bud-bud-bud-bud-bud-bud
instead of:
budduh-buddah-buddah-budduh-buddah-buddah etc (heheheheheh)
Meanfiddler sound desk has always sucked every time ive been there.
bud-bud-bud-bud-bud-bud
instead of:
budduh-buddah-buddah-budduh-buddah-buddah etc (heheheheheh)
Meanfiddler sound desk has always sucked every time ive been there.
Olllie
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liquidcow
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It was at that point that I realised that they had a different drummer with them actually. On the record, the dvd, and when I'd seen them live before, the double-kick part in the outro is 8 semi-quavers, or 9 if you count the one at the end: it's 1-2-3-4-1-2-3-4-1. In the London gig it was half the amount of kicks, so it was 4 quavers: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 1. Slightly disappointing but beter than no gig.
Mikael said the drummer was from Bloodbath by the way. He's obviously not as fast a drummer as Martin, but I was pretty impressed that he'd learned all those songs in time to do the tour with them.
Mikael said the drummer was from Bloodbath by the way. He's obviously not as fast a drummer as Martin, but I was pretty impressed that he'd learned all those songs in time to do the tour with them.
the opeth affinity
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the opeth affinity
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20_tons_of_death said:
hey tons of death, i was at teh gig and would love to see the footage, is their any way you can post it on this forum?
Kir-ir-Bannog
...no ordinary rabbit
liquidcow said:
im no drummer, but it just sounded like he was trying as hard as he could to go as fast as he could....with ONE bass drum.
If he lays for Bloodbath, he aint gonna be slow is he????
In another thread about the amsterdam gig, it was said that the double bassing was fine.....so im thinking either his pedal broke, skin snapped or the microphone wasn't working / turned up.
It an interesting topic this one...but im not sure if we will ever know the truth.
opeth_353
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..does it even matter that much? I'm a drummer and it didn't ruin the night for me. I did notice the double bass problems but it's not a problem to me
I noticed at some points the dodgy bass drum. Definatly sounded like just one bass drum. But alot of the time it seemed fine. Im pretty sure it was just a dodgy mic.
ok guys im going to try and put the footage on here, good luck to me lol but if not i can send it in e-mails if anyone is intrested? my addy is matt_aldred@hotmail.com
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20_tons_of_death said:
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liquidcow
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Kir-ir-Bannog said:
Well the Bloodbath drumming, from what I remember, isn't as fast as some of Martin Lopez's. In any case, the way I see it, the drummer obviously had a very short space of time to learn the songs, and spent the time learning the song structures rather than nailing the really fast double-kick parts. A friend who is an expert drummer told me that he'd have to be a pretty amazing player just to do that.
As for skin snapping or microphone not working, no chance. If anything broke there's be a spare, and it would be a pretty freakish chance if one microphone broke (despite having been soundchecked, and furthermore not being fixed/replaced once it broke) and the one that was working happened to be capturing all the kick hits that fell on to the on-beats.
It's quite simple what happened, I don't see the need for a big speculation.
Probably doesn't matter that much, didn't ruin anything for me, although I was a little disappointed about the end of Deliverance as I said, but I'd rather that than no gig.
Kir-ir-Bannog
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