Lord bless drum editing...
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kaomao
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::XeS::
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And musicians are so stupid...they pretend to sound tight and like a god, also if they don't know how to play. I worked with a singer that for the next album will want to record with another producer because it didn't like how the voice I've done sounds "because your mic keeps to many frequencies and with the shitty live mic my voice sounds better". But he sang like shit and he pretend I use 40plugins to make it right.... Stupid guy! 
Anyway..Elastic audio for kick and BD for the rest? Do you edit kick separatelly? Sincerelly I like to edit the kick separatelly too
Anyway..Elastic audio for kick and BD for the rest? Do you edit kick separatelly? Sincerelly I like to edit the kick separatelly too
gabriel g.
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I tell the drummer to stop playing double bass when he cant make it right.
I tell him it is all about the end result, so dont try to do something you cant!!!
Nowadays I wish I can throw my NT2A against the drummers head and penetrate him with an sm57, or if he´s extra tight an Opus 53 should do the job^^
Man and singers are the worst nightmare!!!!
This dumpfucks always say, : "man I cant perform in this studio atmo,...I need the live feeling, where is my fucking sm58...."
I tell him it is all about the end result, so dont try to do something you cant!!!
Nowadays I wish I can throw my NT2A against the drummers head and penetrate him with an sm57, or if he´s extra tight an Opus 53 should do the job^^
Man and singers are the worst nightmare!!!!
This dumpfucks always say, : "man I cant perform in this studio atmo,...I need the live feeling, where is my fucking sm58...."
KillFrenzy
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It's just another day at work here.... and with much simpler songs.
Incredible how many bands that suyck big time don't see it and keep trying to make songs like their idols. Obviously, they just suck.
Incredible how many bands that suyck big time don't see it and keep trying to make songs like their idols. Obviously, they just suck.
Most people on this forum want it extra-tight, meaning they'll edit to perfection no matter what, even if the drummer is a master of his art. So all this bitching about those oh-so-bad drummers / musicians seems a little off place to me.
DaveBlack
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I like when bad singers actually hear themselves recorded for the first time. Thats when the excuses really start flying. "I think your mic is weird - can you see how it sounds with some reverb?? - No, I need to use a handheld - Trust me, If i record vocals live with the band, it'll be much better".
Never will they admit, that maybe, just maybe theyre not as good as they thought they were.
Same shit with drummers too - "I think your triggers are fucked up".
Never will they admit, that maybe, just maybe theyre not as good as they thought they were.
Same shit with drummers too - "I think your triggers are fucked up".
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deanbailey
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I should have posted a screen shot of my session before I bounced the drums down after editing. Pretty standard drum setup but the song was over 7 min long.
Was about 7 hours of editing.
Even though the drummer was a drum teacher at a tertiary institution (not really a lecturer though) and played tempo perfect I still like my hits grid-tight so I did almost every hit.
I loled
Was about 7 hours of editing.
Even though the drummer was a drum teacher at a tertiary institution (not really a lecturer though) and played tempo perfect I still like my hits grid-tight so I did almost every hit.
I loled
DaveBlack
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It's frustrating when they think it's something wrong with the studio ya know?
This drummer I've worked with absolutely refuses to play to a click track. He plays to a midi version of the drums and this is a drummer who's 99% kick and snare. I tell him over and over that the midi blasting in his ear is giving him a false sense of security. He listens to it back and his first response is always..."thats not how I played it."
Editing kick separately is the only way on faster metal. Otherwise you'd have all sorts of crazy stuff happening on your overheads during double-bass sections.
For this stuff I had to just separate the kick from the rest of the kit entirely and virtually re-program the beat with EA. The rest were done with standard cutting, quantizing and beat detective for edit smoothing. EA still does too much strange stuff to be used on the entire kit. You can get away with it on kick though if you use X-form to bounce.
Still have a track and a half to get through on the last day tomorrow, then I have to consolidate, export, set trigger points on all the tracks with Drumtracker and import it all into Nuendo for guitar tracking. It's a pretty crazy schedule. It has however taught me to always do guide tracks here, where I can supervise and make sure they don't skip ahead of the click, putting the drummer off constantly!
::XeS::
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I think that you can avoid the kick bleeding in the oh's putting a carpet over the bass drum.
Anyway it depends by the mics placement.
Anyway it depends by the mics placement.
C_F_H_13
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Holy fuck if you guys think that picture is bad I should post one of mine! I'll see if I can dig up a real gem for you guys
can't imagine why you'd want to leave it totally unconsolidated all the way through the whole song like that.
AdamWathan
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Isn't it obvious? To take a screenshot and brag about how much drum editing he has to do!
There was no slow-down to warrant consolidating. The new rig can chew through ~2 songs before any issues. Actually some of the other tracks looked much much worse, but they're already consolidated, so no screenies to be had. Fwiw, the screenie above only shows about half the song.
@Xes: I didn't mean kick bleed, but rather having the kick edits cutting up your overheads as well would do all sorts of weird things to cymbal decay. It makes more sense to move the kick individually on the faster sections.
@Xes: I didn't mean kick bleed, but rather having the kick edits cutting up your overheads as well would do all sorts of weird things to cymbal decay. It makes more sense to move the kick individually on the faster sections.
