Lord bless drum editing...

[Metaltastic]

@Xes: I didn't mean kick bleed, but rather having the kick edits cutting up your overheads as well would do all sorts of weird things to cymbal decay. It makes more sense to move the kick individually on the faster sections.

Especially if you had the foresight to cover the kick with a heavy blanket (and/or muffle the fuck out of it with pillows) during tracking!

 

[Ermz]

I'm not sure I understand. Having studied layman acoustics for the purposes of making acoustic treatment, it became obvious early on that blankets, or anything of the like, barely attenuate even close to the frequencies that bass drums spike at. All a blanket will do is kill some highs, and even then the room will still bounce the kick around until it finds its way into the OHs and room mics. If you want total kick isolation the best way is to simply use an electronic trigger pad. That way you get the benefit of dealing with MIDI as well.

 

[Metaltastic]

Yeah, but I was thinking that a lot of drummers would feel more comfortable playing an actual bass drum, and I still think a heavy blanket would do good at muffling a lot, and the dampening inside the drum would seal the deal!

 

[Soundlurker]

Using something to cover the BD helps reduce mids and highs in the OH tracks, which is pretty much all you need, since they are filtered below ~600hz

 

[Jackal_Strain]

I'm afraid Ermz is right Marcus. A blanket will do nothing to mask the frequencies we're talking about here.

-Sigurd-

 

[Ruins]

it is ridicules for me to see this and read the comment because i always thought that its just me who is not good enough yet or the people that i worked with.
so IT IS possible to fix the drums, so do you guys fix the guitars too? or all the tight guitar/bass players just really are that tight like edited drums in the end?

 

[GarethSE]

It's possible to "fix" damn near anything with the technology we have nowadays dude.

 

[[UEAK]Clowd]

it is ridicules for me to see this and read the comment because i always thought that its just me who is not good enough yet or the people that i worked with.
so IT IS possible to fix the drums, so do you guys fix the guitars too? or all the tight guitar/bass players just really are that tight like edited drums in the end?

Yes a lot of us fix the bass and guitars too. Don't forget the vocals either.

 

[C_F_H_13]

it is ridicules for me to see this and read the comment because i always thought that its just me who is not good enough yet or the people that i worked with.
so IT IS possible to fix the drums, so do you guys fix the guitars too? or all the tight guitar/bass players just really are that tight like edited drums in the end?

That's pretty much my job. I fix literally everything within a track. Sounds horrible, but it's actually pretty rewarding. Taking someone's POS song and making it into something that actually has groove always makes me feel good.

 

[Ruins]

WHAT?????? may i ask you gods of metal, how do you fix guitars then? i am aware of cutting (like drums), i do it too but how you fix guitars? how do you fill up the missing tail of the fragment that you just cut?

 

[John_C]

I'm pretty certain marcus is right here. Assuming the OHs are high passed at ~500hz, a load of shit covering the bass drum will limit the amount of kick that is heard in the overheads. This means you can get away with editing the kick seperately without ending up with a mess of OH kick sound and kick mic kick sound all happening at different times and sounding god awful.

I'm pretty certain that's what he meant

 

[Metaltastic]

I'm pretty certain marcus is right here. Assuming the OHs are high passed at ~500hz, a load of shit covering the bass drum will limit the amount of kick that is heard in the overheads. This means you can get away with editing the kick seperately without ending up with a mess of OH kick sound and kick mic kick sound all happening at different times and sounding god awful.

I'm pretty certain that's what he meant

Indeed I did, thanks dude!

 

[Soundlurker]

^ That's my opinion as well.

 

[[UEAK]Clowd]

WHAT?????? may i ask you gods of metal, how do you fix guitars then? i am aware of cutting (like drums), i do it too but how you fix guitars? how do you fill up the missing tail of the fragment that you just cut?

time stretch, and sometimes you can get away with just extending and crossfading.

 

[derfbonker]

That didn't look too bad to me. . . I guess a lot of you guys are working with better bands than I have to. I basically had to rewrite the drums for a band we did about a year back, the cybals didn't quite line up, but it was all I could do.



I wish I had Pro-Tools

 

[C_F_H_13]

WHAT?????? may i ask you gods of metal, how do you fix guitars then? i am aware of cutting (like drums), i do it too but how you fix guitars? how do you fill up the missing tail of the fragment that you just cut?

guitars for the most part are minor adjustments...so I just splice and fill. Always print a DI track to use to edit with Beat Detective.

I've never used Elastic audio/time compression expansion for editing guitars so Ic an't say how well that works. But I have used it for bass.

 

[Mikaël-ange]

Doesn't look too bad imo, do you want see my drum edition screenshot for comparing?

 

[blackbird]

Hi guys! Is there a good tutorial how to edit and quantize live drums in Protools here in the forum?
I'm new in the Protools DAW and it is hard to learn all this new stuff...

Thanks!
Dimi

 

[ahjteam]

:zombie: One of the easier tracks I worked with today...

Pussy.

That one had over 700 cuts

 

[Ermz]

Oh man, I can't imagine anything worse than having to edit in that DAW.

..at what point did this become a penis slinging contest?

But since we're swingin, here's one I prepared a few minutes ago: