Maynard

i am new to this forum myself, so i dont really know any of you yet. actually i'm fairly new to the internet, i avoided it like a plague as long as i could! the only other chat i have ever been in was the mudvayne board, and i learned of opeth there from a guy who did nothing but bash mudvayne and the likes. he pissed me off but i did benefit from our arguments. i'm here. i'm stealing opeth songs as we speak from winMX cuz i'm waiting for 3 of their discs from amazon.com, but what i hated about the mudvayne board was exactly this shit, getting ragged on for stuff you like or dislike. i'll still go there from time to time but that board has a lot of bugs anyway! what i noticed here at first was people voiced their opinions in a very civil manner and didn't argue or bash bands just because it wasn't their "bag." hopefully this is a rare thing here, i'm not looking for people to fight with on the internet! if i was i'd go to an n'sync chat or some shit. so it brings the phrase to mind........."can't we all just get along?":grin: :lol:
 
Not one bit. It's your choice who you want to listen to, and I have no right judging you by your love of Roxette, if that was the case. NEVER.
This is a bunch of boloni. If you truly believe that, you have zero personality, you are a fucking sheep. People judge, form opinions, and in a music forum music tastes should matter. Anyways, I'll take it as face value and call it the Jannet principle

Again, selective reading. I've given so many hints of my age, current lifestyle, bill paying abilities, it would take an idiot not to have noticed. But oh well. And I have posted about Opeth. LOOK AND YE SHALL FIND.

Well pardon me that I didn't read verbal diarrhea this weekend. So how old are you, what do you, what is your current lifestyle? And what have posted OPETH. I'd love your opinion on them. Perhaps you can direct me to something you've written.

And the small chunk leads to this: Jokes and insults.

Again you're very amusing. I'm supposed to know everything about you, but you somehow can make an opinion about me on the fly. Fascinatiing logic. Even more fascinating if seen in light of the Jannet principle.

You can't tell? Anyone can tell you that I don't give a flying fuck. I thought I made it clear.
Great we cleared that up. So why exactly are you responding to my message?


Directly connected to "I can judge a lot about people's tastes." You are quite judgemental and full of assumptions. It's pretty self explanatory; I really don't feel a need to break it down to you.
And you're not? Fascinating logic once again.
 
*butting in*

Jannet, when you make 328 posts in 6 days, people will be turned off. And in general, Wolff's posts are dripping with satire -- perhaps if you didn't feel the need to respond to everything as if he was being literal then you wouldn't find yourself in these arguments. If you sat back and observed the board, got a feel for people's personalities, where they're coming from, etc, you wouldn't run into so much hostility.

And incidentally, while I do think you can tell a lot about someone by their taste in music, Wolff probably couldn't care less whether you listen to Staind or not -- that's probably just the icing on the cake. Everyone knows I like Creed but I've never been attacked for it.

If you show respect for people, you'll get it. And sometimes respect is gained by knowing when to sit one out. (Like I should probably be doing now. :p)

No one's telling you to leave or anything. On the contrary. You've added some interesting ideas to the board. And this is an inclusive board, different from most. But please, just chill a bit, absorb a bit.

Sorry, I've had that building, and Wolff shouldn't have to go it alone when others agree. And if you haven't already, here's the part where you call me a bitch. ;)

*butting out*
 
Jannet. I understand where you're coming from, but understand that Wolff here, is the forum's resident jackass. He is rarely serious, even when he appears insulting, and right now it's obvious that he is just toying with you, getting inside your skull and amusing himself with what angry come-back you make next. Thats's the way he is. Judging from your irrational snap at Lina, it worked well.
 
Originally posted by Jannet


Sorry Belial, but this is the way I am. If it appears insulting, especially when unwarranted, it IS insulting. I will not be called a stupid bitch and just take it with a grain of salt. Do you mean to tell me that I should just take it and laugh because this is the way he is? I will not. I don't play mind games, and if that's his thing, so be it, but I will not be toyed with. If he gets amused by this, so be it. When is he ever serious then? It seems that everyone is applauding his constant satire and lack of seriousness. Am I supposed to know this? And if I do, I don't agree with it, since there is a time for everything, and constant jokes is not one of them.

Oh, I have a life, but I'm also an insomniac, in addition to being allowed to post at work, when time allows, and since it's been a slow time, this is where I've been.

You certainly have a right to feel that way, I just wanted to make sure you're aware of the person you're dealing with.
 
Sure, now I'm judgemental. Every post you make gives a better picture to the person behind the words. I've based all my judgements by what you've typed, NEVER on your musical tastes, as you have about me (Staind, anyone?).
Anyone spot the contradiction(s) there? :rolleyes:
Listen. Your arguments are based on nothing but my response to your Antz thread and my love for Staind. You are falling flat on your face because you're not making any sense, and you keep coming back trying to make me speechless, but to no avail. Count your losses, and keep making useless threads. You're good at that, as opposed to trying to make a valid point.
So I go out, have a few beers, play pool, and this is all you can muster in the time of my absence? Sad twat. What can I say, you're not doing too well. Generaliazations will never get you anywhere.

Are you that lazy that you can't search yourself? I'm not going to put all my posts on a plate for your ease in perusal. There are options here given to you by UM so you can see ALL a certain person's posts. Geez, I've been here only a short time and know this - I would think you did too. You can go through 314 posts right? Anyway...
I did actually. I typed Opeth and Jannet. The search engine returned 2 queries, none of them with any relevant info.
Have a look. I asked you to perhaps help me out here:rolleyes:

No, but take the time to read my posts. I'm not making an opinion about you on the fly - with your responses, they drip with attitude and a holier than thou mentality. And you yourself are trying to argue the fact that you CAN judge someone by their musical tastes. That sounds shallow to me, no two ways about it. You are the one who said "who is this stupid bitch anyway," and, "her idea is as stupid as my girlfriend asking to fingerpop my ass." You're giving great clues to your personality, and none of them good.
I did. There are not enough hours in the day to keep up with your diarrhea.

And let me explain something for the umpteenth time: to judge means to form an opinion about through careful weighing of evidence and testing of premises. So I can form an opinion about your musical tastes, can't I? This is not a jury type judgement, but a judgement nevertheless. Grow up.

"who is this stupid bitch" is just harmless banter. It's a internet ffs, don't take yourself so seriously.

Same reason you're responding to mine. To make a point and see who has the bigger dick.
You don't know my reasona, I suspect you don't even know your reasona... as "you claim that you don't care", but yet seem to care (why would keep this going?) Make up your mind. Consistency is not your forte. (And I hope a chick like you doesn't have a dick, unless it is some piece stuck in your throat somewhere. Perhaps learning a new language, like Arabic, can solve your problem. Cough it out!)

Sure, now I'm judgemental. Every post you make gives a better picture to the person behind the words. I've based all my judgements by what you've typed, NEVER on your musical tastes, as you have about me (Staind, anyone?).
Well technically you typed your musical tastes, so there :cool:
Listen. Your arguments are based on nothing but my response to your Antz thread and my love for Staind. You are falling flat on your face because you're not making any sense, and you keep coming back trying to make me speechless, but to no avail. Count your losses, and keep making useless threads. You're good at that, as opposed to trying to make a valid point.
Assumptions, assumptions, assumptions. Wrong again. Don't keep repeating yourself, as you just sound ridiculous. I'll give you another chance, this is too entertaining to ignore.
 
NO YOU CAN'T. You can't tell SHIT by what people listen to. If someone listens to a Christian band, does that mean he/she is Christian? If someone listens to Classical music, does this mean they're conservative, learned individuals? If someone listens to Creed, Korn and Disturbed, does that mean they're only into mainstream nu-metal and some 14-year old pop loving tart? NO. And what are you, his mouth? He attacked me for liking Staind, and I responded. Read please, before making comments like that.

Christ, what a dumb bitch! Listening to a certain type of music involves making a choice, and any choice can be judged upon. Assuming that if someone listens to Classical music s/he must be a conservative learned individual is erroneous; on the other hand saying that Staind, is complicated, meaningful, heart-felt, emotional music shows blatant ignorance.


Why? Am I making useless posts? Am I starting useless, meaningless, pointless threads? This is the only forum I come to. Seems to me that people are getting pissed that I'm perhaps going to pass their mark in posting, since it seems so important who is the top-dog poster here (i.e. Misanthrope top-poster thread).
Another sign of blatant ignorance. Top-poster refers to quality, and obviosly if read the thread I was referring to his qualities, not his number of posts. FYI, he is not even a top 15 poster on these boards.. Oh well.
 
Any choice can be judged, but there can be more than one judgement.

You know what? You're correct finally.

It is a matter of if the judgement is right or wrong.
If you meant that judgement could be right or wrong (becasue the sentence is grammatically incorrect), you're right once again.

Anyways, I proposed that you can judge choices. I didn't say anywhere that those judgements are correct... for is judgement, but an opinion?

You claimed not to judge (the Jannet Principle), therefore I saw a glarring contradiction whence you were giving me shit for my arrogance and holier than thou attitude.

Thank God you see the light finally, but I'm amused to note that consistency is not your strong point.
 
Originally posted by Jannet
Maybe in your book, but 9 times out of 10 it means quantity. Anyway, let's see what else you have to say...*sigh*

What? Top means the highest point, level, or part of something, of the highest quality, amount, or degree, the highest position (as in rank or achievement).

Top bloke, top-guy, top-poster refers to quality, not quantity.
 
Originally posted by Jannet


http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/memberlist.php?s=&what=topposters&perpage=15


What do you call this, since you gave the link earlier, a TOP "QUALITY" POSTING LIST? Come on...get off the bullshit horse..

You must be so angry, that you can't even reason anymore.

Let's recap: the Misanthrope top-poster thread was meant as a tribute to Misanthrope, and if you've read his run-ins with me and especially Satori you would have a glimpse of what I'm writing about. Belial also referred to that (fuck, do I have to explain everything to you???), so the underlying principle is clear to the people involved. I was referring to his quality of posts, and not his quantity as you erroneously assumed. The link I gave you was an illustration of that point: he is not a high number poster...

It's not fair for me to continue this debate. You're obviously under duress, and just not making any sense. Chill out, go to sleep, and come back tomorrow. I'll still be around;)
 
May I remind you, in your words , "he is not even a top 15 poster on these boards.. Oh well." And you have the balls to talk about contradiction...what a joke :lol: :lol: :lol:

I'm sorry, you just don't get it. FYI number of posts means shit here; something that remotely matters is when you started posting. Talk to Papa Opeth about the "May people" if you will.
 
Originally posted by Jannet


I haven't even broke a sweat, honey, so don't go there. And yes, fine if it was a TRIBUTE to Misanthrope, but since I didn't bother checking out the thread and just read the title, this is what I assumed it was: "Misanthrope is a top poster." "Top poster" in internet lingo does not fucking mean "quality poster." It means "most" posts. You HAVE to know this, you can't be that stupid. You even used it yourself: "he's not even one of the top 15 posters" What does that mean, that he's not even one of the quality 15 posters? Give me a fucking break!! You're starting to nit pick because you know your argument is growing stale! Get over yourself, dude!

Nitpicking? The devil is in the details sunshine. How can you argue at any depth without examining details?

Oh right, so you don't even bother to read the thread, and somehow can clairvoyantly tell me precisely what I meant. :lol: :lol: :lol:

It's ironic, that Ms.-I-never-judge-on-something-you-don't-write will build entire arguments without having the slightest fucking clue what the interlocutor is talking about. You're just arguing because I questioned some of your idiotic posts earlier on, without realizing that you're rendering yourself even more ridiculous at any momnet. What a self-righteous, arrogant, dumb bitch you are! :)
 
Originally posted by Jannet


Who is Papa Opeth, and why should I talk to him about anything, when I don't even know him? Is this a sign that you're running out of things to say, and you're forwarding me to someone else? Yeah, I'm gonna say, "Hey, Papa Opeth, I know you don't know me, but Wolff told me to ask you about the May people." This is getting more and more ridiculous the more you respond, buddy. I said it before and I'll say it again: QUIT WHILE YOU'RE BEHIND!

Papa Opeth is the most wildly respected person on this board. Definition of coolness, his moniker is Metalmancpa. You def. will gain by talking to him about the history of this board.

I can't be arsed to explain every-fucking-thing to you anymore, that's why.
 
It's not fair for me to continue this debate. You're obviously under duress, and just not making any sense. Chill out, go to sleep, and come back tomorrow. I'll still be around

:lol::lol::lol:

I haven't even broke a sweat, honey, so don't go there. And yes, fine if it was a TRIBUTE to Misanthrope, but since I didn't bother checking out the thread and just read the title, this is what I assumed it was: "Misanthrope is a top poster." "Top poster" in internet lingo does not fucking mean "quality poster." It means "most" posts.

Do you know that that is exactly what it means?
Do you have an example of evidence?
If so, do you know if Wolff was using "internet lingo"? Do you know that he was not using real life lingo?

Give me a fucking break!! You're starting to nit pick because you know your argument is growing stale! Get over yourself, dude!

So providing reasons for an argument, and providing enough information to prove his points make it grow stale?

In that case, I shall make all my future arguments and debates by saying one word and repeating nonsense to thwart my opponents attempt at reason!
Hah!

Thankyou for this brilliant strategy, dear, I shall hold this knowledge gravely in my head.



Yes, I am insane.
 
Originally posted by Jannet


Um, why are you sticking your nose in it? hmmm? Feel left out? His reasons are based on nothing more than my like for Staind and his belief that (at the risk of repeating myself, YET AGAIN) a ridiculous idea to a ridiculous post warrants an equation to stupidity, and calling someone he hardly knows "stupid bitch," equating that insult with "harmless banter." Sullen, please stay out of it, thank you.

Now, m'Lady, if you read my post, you'll see that I'm talking about "top poster" thingie.

Yes, I do feel left out. Not from this, though.

Are you sure that his reasons are based on nothing more than your like of Staind? Did he say that? Did he say there was nothing else?

Did you try to find out why he called you the above insult? Do you know if he meant it personally? Or was he using it as a "figure of speech"? Seeing as he DID say that, what shall you do? Insult him back? Find out why he said it? Find a way to better your relation with him (if it actually needs bettering)?

Do you seek to 'win' this little melee?

Or do you seek to settle it?

And I'm JUDGING you NOW

And

Who THE FUCK are YOU to judge?

Sorry, I just had to do this.

Are you better than him? Does that allow you to judge others? Is he below the required standards to judge?

Respectfully,
~who the hell am I?
 
Hahaha...look at the pot calling the kettle black. #1, I explained to you why I didn't read it. #2, I didn't build my entire argument on "Misanthrope is a top poster." That was so minor as to be ridiculous. I built my entire argument on you calling me a stupid bitch after I posted a ridiculous idea to your ridiculous post! What is so fucking hard to understand? And I'm JUDGING you NOW by the way are responding, calling me a bitch (numerous times now), giving your pretentious explanation on Staind (which you know I like, and since you tried to insult me on that base, there's another one for ya). And arrogant? Isn't that the word I used to describe you? Talk about lack of originality. Wolff, get over yourself, stop NIT-PICKING on minor shit, and focus on the big picture. The big picture is you blatantly disrespecting me for no fucking reason. The big picture of you assuming my personality because of my like of Staind, Tool, etc. The big picture of what your idea of harmless banter is: calling someone you don't even know 'STUPID BITCH.' Get OVER IT, BOY. I await your response, yet again *sigh* *sigh* *sigh*

I'll be blunt:
I called you a stupid bitch because you struck me as one. I made a judgement call when I had a go at you. Surely you made erroneous assumptions, showed a remarkable inconsistency and built some stupid arguments. You didn't keep your cool, and didn't know how to deal with banter. Raven777 got killed by three or four people, but he was utterly cool, and I applaud that. This is the big picture.

Are you a stupid bitch? Hard question, although more so than yesterday in my mind. Yet, you are a newbie, and staying late so I have to factor that in. I remain a skeptical person, so I'm sure you'll have the chance to prove me wrong.

As far as originality... I'm afraid I have none:rolleyes: I am somehow consistent though, which doesn't seem to be your forte.

Finally, I had fun... and that's more than you can say.:lol: :lol: :lol: