McDsp Analog Channel

[pipaguapique]

any users here? (aside from Greyskull)

I'm demoing this thing and it's seems to be pretty killer, but i wanna know what type of "tape model" (AC2) you prefer on Drum Buss?

Im using AC1 on the mix buss using the "console 3" preset and i don't seem to need any compression after that. Is that a bad idea. Everything sound pretty glued right now just with that on.

EDIT: ah shoot! it had to be in the Equipment thingy

 

[Skinny Viking]

I use and love both

drum buss I use the modern @ 15 ips and just fuck with the bias until it sounds cool. I think I use the USA-A for the drums and something else for guitars but its slipping my mind. I also tend to go with the Vintage setting for guitars with the bias at like -4

I also do the Ac1 on mix buss ... just set it so that the little light bounces evenly from green to yellow during the loudest parts of the tune and adjust input & output until you're getting 2-3 db gain reduction (max). Always sounds very nice

 

[crillemannen]

Ac-1 on master bus. Used it on the Helloandso mix. Rarely use the Ac-2, i dont like how it change the sound. But AC-1 is a great compressor

 

[pipaguapique]

Ac-1 on master bus. Used it on the Helloandso mix. Rarely use the Ac-2, i dont like how it change the sound. But AC-1 is a great compressor

i noticed that too...specially the kick, but i guess it changed it in a good way.

15ips for drums huh? i really need to find out more about ips because i have no clue what the sound difference is between 15 or 30ips

 

[Skinny Viking]

15ips for drums huh? i really need to find out more about ips because i have no clue what the sound difference is between 15 or 30ips

neither do I!

I just went with the 15 ips cause it was the one in the middle hahahaha

to be honest though, I can't say for sure if I've heard much of a difference in the sound when I switch it from 15 to 30 ... it may be doing something in a very subtle way or maybe its only noticeable depending on how you have the other settings

 

[Sinister Mephisto]

it stands for inches per second. Slower speeds have less high end, or at least less clear high end, and the low end "bump" appears is lower. If I remember correctly around 120hz for 30ips and 60hz for 15. 7ips is pretty unusable, at least for real tape. I don't know how it is with the plugin.

Also slower speeds save tape! But I guess that doesn't matter.

 

[Rob Logic]

neither do I!

I just went with the 15 ips cause it was the one in the middle hahahaha

to be honest though, I can't say for sure if I've heard much of a difference in the sound when I switch it from 15 to 30 ... it may be doing something in a very subtle way or maybe its only noticeable depending on how you have the other settings

The tape speeds make a big difference on actual tape, I hope they would have modeled something similar in the plug (never used it but heard fantastic things). Typically your 15 ips tapes look to have a fuller bottom and smoother (less) top as far as freq's. You could hunt around on gearslutz and read from the purists in their talks about tape speeds. However, think below saves you the STD's you may get along the way.

link with graphs

 

[pipaguapique]

it stands for inches per second. Slower speeds have less high end, or at least less clear high end, and the low end "bump" appears is lower. If I remember correctly around 120hz for 30ips and 60hz for 15. 7ips is pretty unusable, at least for real tape. I don't know how it is with the plugin.

Also slower speeds save tape! But I guess that doesn't matter.

wow, you're pretty spot on. I was reading just that on GS. And pretty much everyone prefers 15ips for the quality of the sound and for the sake of tape.

The plugin is pretty darn good, but its good to know what you're actually tweaking.


@Carlos:
do you use AC2 last in the chain or fist?

 

[Skinny Viking]

@Carlos:
do you use AC2 last in the chain or fist?

"Fist"? hahahaha

AC2 is 1st or 2nd in my chain for both drums and guitars. Sometimes I'll throw a global low cut on the aux 1st so I'm not making the plugin work harder than it needs to. All depends on if it sounds like it needs it or not

AC1 is always 1st on the master and in fact, is the only thing on my master fader.

 

[RiF]

AC1 on the mixbus can round things (especially transients) up nicely, if you go for like 2 dB of gain reduction.
AC2 finds it's way on the kick very often. I guess, I used USA M or USA A, something with a bump in the low-end. Sometimes it goes on the drum bus, if they need some more punch.
But although I have been heavily into saturation plugins lately (URS Saturation, McDSP Analog Channel/Channel-G, IK Fairchild, Massey Tapehead, UAD Fatso), most of them mess with the sound and like my mixes better without them.

 

[greyskull]

i tend to find myself using 30 on more Metal drums and 15 on more rocky stuff.
maybe 7.5 on a room, changes really.
Almost always 15 ips on the bass.

 

[Skinny Viking]

^ I think I'm gonna give that a try .. with the drums on 30 ... curious what the sound diff may be