Metal Mix Issues - Hopefully someone can help!

[philby82]

Hey guys

Having some problems with the mix of one of my bands songs. Can't really describe it, just not even sounding close to clear enough.

I have posted this song before, but i had some problems with the di's which i have retracked and now is all sorted.

Bit of Info

Guitars - esp alexi emg 81 - focusrite liquid 56 - tse808 - reamp box - bugera 6260 w/dummy load - lecab 2 - spres8 impulse. eq'd

Drums - mix of sd2 and slate trigger

vocals - condensor through various vst compressers, verbs, etc

Bass - yamaha bass, ola's way

Hopefully someone can give me some starting points

EDIT: better post link lol

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5382960/2 - Desperate Plea - rough mix a.mp3

Cheers

Phil

 

[Wolfeman]

Needs a little more oomph on the low end.

 

[philby82]

Cheers Wolfe, i have made a few changes.

Hopefully this is a bit better

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5382960/2 - Desperate Plea - rough mix b.mp3

Cheers

Phil

 

[philby82]

fresh ears and fresh day have made me realise i have stuffed up my kick somewhere. will revisit it and post update later

Cheers

Phil

 

[philby82]

kick fixed hopefully, and vocal volume levels more consistant.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5382960/2 - Desperate Plea - rough mix c.mp3

anyone else got any suggestions that might help?

Cheers

Phil

 

[Harry Hughes]

Honestly, the only difference I can hear between the first mix and latest update is that it's even more congested sounding, the guitars are higher in the mix and it's just louder overall.
The guitars in particular are a big problem in this mix. Way too big sounding and just not letting the rest of the mix breathe.
Do you have an actual guitar cab on hand?

 

[philby82]

i have an actual cab on hand, just nowhere to mic it up unfortunately

i guess il try lowering the guitars and cutting some more eq out of them...

Cheers for the advice Harry, i'll keep playing with it.

Phil

 

[Harry Hughes]

I was thinking more along the lines of you trying to do the tone again from scratch with different amp settings

 

[philby82]

i still have the di's, i can do that. will try some different settings