i see that your fan of the genitorturers. have you ever heard of the impotent sea snakes? they seem right up your alley. their website is www.impotentseasnakes.com personally, i dont like them cuz i dont LIVE for that shit. ive had the misfortune(for me) of seeing them twice. the first time was a couple years back on the misfits 25th anniversary tour. well, jerry only and a couple other guys and dez cadena from black flag marky ramone played on a few songs as well the second time was when stuck mojo played their annual show here in atlanta this past new years. i kinda liked them this last time but thats probably all the free booze they were passing out talking.