multiband on gtrs

colton

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So I just started messing with this technique after reading various threads that already covered it and I'm already pretty happy with the results so far. I'm curious to hear anybody's opinion on the following questions.

Do you typically lower the mid band once you've tamed the low end rumble from the palm mutes, or does that screw with your tone too much?

Do you generally apply a high pass before or after using this technique?

Cheers!
 
I just compress the range from 60hz or 80hz (depending on where I hi-pass) to 300hz. High-pass after that, not before. Excuse my bad grammar. English is not my first language. And yeh, this technique works great for modern metal. If you feel that it's screwing up your tone mess around with the higher mids. It's usually lack of and/or static lower mids that perceive a tone as being harsh, as you probably know.
 
Thanks for the reply. Anyone else? I'm just wondering because when I apply the band and compress around 65Hz-250Hz, the low end tends to come out a bit more. I'm curious if this happens to anyone else and if so, do you generally lower the band or high pass?
 
Highpass on guitars between 80 and 120hz depending on the source. Multibandcomp between 80 and 200hz + lowering the band (very little) for palmmutes if needed.
 
I sometimes multiband lowtuned guitars, i hipass the shit at 80hz then multiband the lowmids only (around 250hz with wide q), bypass the rest.
 
I use it only if I need...for example when the low end is a little bit out of control. Pay attention to avoid a too much thin sound.
Usually till to 200-250hz...depends on the sound.
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Thanks for the reply. Anyone else? I'm just wondering because when I apply the band and compress around 65Hz-250Hz, the low end tends to come out a bit more. I'm curious if this happens to anyone else and if so, do you generally lower the band or high pass?

if you compress and the low end comes out more, that's because you're using auto-makeup gain on the compressor, you might want that on or you might not, just be sure to tick it off if you don't want it, you could manually adjust the gain on the compressed freq band if the automakeup doesn't satisfy you
 
On stuff that alternates a lot between chugs and chords, I end up using a multiband comp most of the time, just to even the guitars a little. I'm just taking about 2db off at about 80-250hz, other bands are bypassed. Usually HP/LP after the multiband.
 
if you compress and the low end comes out more, that's because you're using auto-makeup gain on the compressor, you might want that on or you might not, just be sure to tick it off if you don't want it, you could manually adjust the gain on the compressed freq band if the automakeup doesn't satisfy you

I'm not sure this is the case because I don't even touch the make-up gain. It hasn't been much of a problem for me because I hp/lp after I compress with the multiband anyway.

I was just curious if anyone lowers the band if the multi causes more low end to come up in volume as oppose to hp before or after. Thanks for the replies.
 
I'm not sure this is the case because I don't even touch the make-up gain. It hasn't been much of a problem for me because I hp/lp after I compress with the multiband anyway.

I was just curious if anyone lowers the band if the multi causes more low end to come up in volume as oppose to hp before or after. Thanks for the replies.

You don't have to touch it if it's on auto makeup.

Head. Desk.
 
Also, subtractive eq, which essentially the multiband will be doing, can make other freq pop out more. Perhaps try lowering your threshold, or, address the low end problems you are having with the multiband comp, or through other means.
 
I'm not sure this is the case because I don't even touch the make-up gain. It hasn't been much of a problem for me because I hp/lp after I compress with the multiband anyway.

I was just curious if anyone lowers the band if the multi causes more low end to come up in volume as oppose to hp before or after. Thanks for the replies.

what plugin are you using? cause ReaXcomp has auto makeup turned on by default, you don't have to "touch it" for it to work, in fact you have to touch for it not to work
 
Also, subtractive eq, which essentially the multiband will be doing, can make other freq pop out more. Perhaps try lowering your threshold, or, address the low end problems you are having with the multiband comp, or through other means.

the point with eq, is that it will be subtracting all the time. multiband will only work when certain bands exceed the threshold.
 
That's the point, for example you need the multiband when you have palm muting and the bass are out of control but you don't need compression in the other passages

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if you compress and the low end comes out more, that's because you're using auto-makeup gain on the compressor, you might want that on or you might not, just be sure to tick it off if you don't want it, you could manually adjust the gain on the compressed freq band if the automakeup doesn't satisfy you

I would think that if you multi-band compress and the lowend comes out more then you are just pushing something down that lets the lowend come through more unmasked. No sure what that has to do with auto-makeup gain. Obviously, I could be talking out of my ass here as I've never really thought about make-up gain having anything to with this but it doesn't make sense to me.
 
what plugin are you using? cause ReaXcomp has auto makeup turned on by default, you don't have to "touch it" for it to work, in fact you have to touch for it not to work

the stock multiband compressor that comes with Cubase 4.

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I like it. Very easy to use. I leave the output at zero.

You don't have to touch it if it's on auto makeup.

Head. Desk.

...lol, I know this. btw, I don't believe I ever said anything about it even being on auto makeup. the multi I'm using doesn't even have that option.