Need Help With Cymbal KSHHHTTT (harshness/sizzle)

[smoke.ya.later]

what do you guys do in this situation?
i tried compression..i tried cutting with sharp Q's to bold Q's..i tried fuckin De-essing ( which was the dumbest idea ever..) and i even tried smokin' a bowl..nothing helped..

please help me..

 

[musikman1]

what do you guys do in this situation?
i tried compression..i tried cutting with sharp Q's to bold Q's..i tried fuckin De-essing ( which was the dumbest idea ever..) and i even tried smokin' a bowl..nothing helped..

please help me..

Try High Passing them.

 

[crillemannen]

Try put some chorus on, and slightly de-essing it a bit, that should help

 

[Fragle]

real or programmed drums?

real drums, de-essing and eq.
programmed drums, try lowering the velocity of the cymbals. SSD cymbals for example sound very harsh at 127, IME around 115-120 works best.

 

[ahjteam]

Try High Passing them.

how about low passing instead? but seriously, don't. Try just to use hishelf, -6dB at 1khz and then bring up the frequency slowly as high as possible so that it doesn't sound harsh.

 

[zirkonflex]

Try High Passing them.

 

[smoke.ya.later]

thanks alot guys
im gonna try all these techniques
please keep em coming
and maybe if you guys care enough
ill post the overheads and see what you think??
thanks dudes

 

[ahjteam]

did you put the overheads in context? like with drums, bass and guitars, and maybe keyboards and vocals too? that way they might not sound as harsh anymore

 

[colonel kurtz]

is it on all the cymbals, are just certain ones?

i know that personally, i always get a lot harsh bullshit out of the hi-hat more than anything else...and fucking around with attack/release settings on the OH comp. for a bit will usually find a middle ground that smashes the harsh attack of the hats, but lets the rest shine through pretty much unaffected.