Need to EQ a panned rough mix (want tips)
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waltz mastering
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The trick to good eq, is to not over do it.
Use wide bells and shelves.. pass filters sparingly.. nothing by default. If you have to eq the shit out of anything, that usually means it wasn't recorded well in the first place.
Carving is a concept I don't get and probably means the arrangement isn't good to start with. 2 cents.
Use wide bells and shelves.. pass filters sparingly.. nothing by default. If you have to eq the shit out of anything, that usually means it wasn't recorded well in the first place.
Carving is a concept I don't get and probably means the arrangement isn't good to start with. 2 cents.
JamesNorman
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DanLights
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Wrong place (you're asking for help on a specific mix, so it should go in rate my mix), totally wrong attitude (I was expecting you would get flamed and instead got a perfectly nice reply with some basic pointers which you obviously need), plus judging from your first post you are pretty lost in the subject. Mixing is not "first panning then eq the fuck out of everything", it's much much more than that.
My suggestion: Dont post again (unless it's to apologize), and read a ton about mixing. Read the tutorials here, check tutorials on YouTube, other sites, etc. And when you know all the tools for mixing and the many ways to use them, cone back here and ask for help in rate my mix
Edit: oh and asking for "useful replies like specific freqs to cut" is not very accepted here and makes you look like an asshole, even more in the way you "demand" these replies
My suggestion: Dont post again (unless it's to apologize), and read a ton about mixing. Read the tutorials here, check tutorials on YouTube, other sites, etc. And when you know all the tools for mixing and the many ways to use them, cone back here and ask for help in rate my mix
Edit: oh and asking for "useful replies like specific freqs to cut" is not very accepted here and makes you look like an asshole, even more in the way you "demand" these replies
Jarkko Mattheiszen
The FU guy.
Tom gave you perfectly solid advice. If you ask for help, be prepared to receive help and not flip out like a spoiled kid if you don't get the answer you hoped for.
Check your attitude and try again, thank you.
Jarkko Mattheiszen
The FU guy.
DanLights
Santa Hat Forever
I suggest ban, no questions asked, who's with me? Bring on the führer.
Some people are too stupid for the Internet man, you probably just need some more fresh air, or getting laid. I'm sure someone will come, download your mix, fix everything and give it back to you all pretty and ready for free without even saying a word about your recording and mixing skills, that willing person will definitely come around at any moment, and he won't even go away when you start insulting him cause he's fuckin Cupid and he loves you
Some people are too stupid for the Internet man, you probably just need some more fresh air, or getting laid. I'm sure someone will come, download your mix, fix everything and give it back to you all pretty and ready for free without even saying a word about your recording and mixing skills, that willing person will definitely come around at any moment, and he won't even go away when you start insulting him cause he's fuckin Cupid and he loves you
JamesNorman
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Yes!!
If i was him i would delete my account!! he has 4 posts and come off this arrogant?
DanLights
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Lol at pussies 
Nobody ever said you're recordings were bad you little faggot, Tom gave you perfectly valid advice, his 2 cents on eq as he said, and you insulted him for not listening and started demanding useful answers like we were some sort of tech support for whiney faggots all over the Internet.
Sorry for all the namecalling, Im just a keyboard warrior who gets off on insulting people over the Internet
Nobody ever said you're recordings were bad you little faggot, Tom gave you perfectly valid advice, his 2 cents on eq as he said, and you insulted him for not listening and started demanding useful answers like we were some sort of tech support for whiney faggots all over the Internet.
Sorry for all the namecalling, Im just a keyboard warrior who gets off on insulting people over the Internet
Jarkko Mattheiszen
The FU guy.
No-one told you it's recorded like shit, you're just reading things the way you want to read them. You start off by praising how great of a website this is and asking for help, and when someone who actually knows what the fuck he's talking about gives you some very basic advice of a very basic field of audio processing, because it seems you don't really know what you need to do and why, you start acting like you have been insulted on a personal level? Seriously, what the fuck? You asked for advice, you got some and then you were suddenly in a position to demand certain kind of replies? This isn't McDonalds, and you're not ordering a fucking burger here. Man, I'd love to see guys like this to try interning at a professional studio with an attitude like that.
I know it's not a democracy, but I vote for ban and thread lock.
I know it's not a democracy, but I vote for ban and thread lock.
DanLights
Santa Hat Forever
Jarkko Mattheiszen said:
I want to kiss you in the mouth. Did I ever tell you I have long girly hair and a sensitive heart?
Jarkko Mattheiszen
The FU guy.
DanLights
Santa Hat Forever
Jarkko Mattheiszen said:
Ok that seriously made me laugh. 2:23 am and Iphone running out of battery, must sleep.
I was about to hit ban per your request, but since you manned up I shall not.
Speaking from a neutral stand point, lighten up bud, there's a lot of very knowledgeable people here that can help you out. Stay cool
Speaking from a neutral stand point, lighten up bud, there's a lot of very knowledgeable people here that can help you out. Stay cool
Jarkko Mattheiszen
The FU guy.
Great, now let's stop whining and try this again.
What waltz mastering meant was you should start with small and broad adjustments rather than starting with anything over dramatic with the EQ at first. If you find you need to EQ the shit out of something as you put it, it usually means the recorded tone wasn't good. That's logical, right? Sometimes you just have to do it, and there's nothing wrong with that, but start slow.
I did listen to your track, but now that you've taken it down I can't really advice you on the original questions, but the best advice you can get at this point is to use your ears. I know it doesn't sound very helpful, but the sooner you realize there aren't any fixed frequencies to adjust because every single recorded sound is different, and that you just have to listen and experiment to get a feel about how EQ changes affect the tone and feel of a sound, the sooner your results start to get drastically better.
If you want a quick "cheat sheet", you could check out this pic taken from the Avid Pro Tools Users Blog: http://www.airusersblog.com/storage....gif?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1287320892367
Just take it with a pinch of salt, as there are no real "magic frequencies" to cut or boost. It can be a nice starting point, though.
Oh, and don't be so set on only cutting and not boosting. The important thing is doing whatever makes stuff sound good, not doing what is "right."
Megin
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That's part of the basic knowledge that there's no best frequencies. The best for one track are no the best for the next track. And it all depends too what you want it to sound like. Change and it will effect the whole mix. A mix is a compromise of sounds. Many instruments in a good mix sounds dull solo but with the rest of the mix, brutal. And forummembers dont mind help, but few are willing to help those that dont even learn the basics first. That's not too much askes. It's perceived as laziness not to strain onself a bit first.
DanLights
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Now that were back on grown people terms, I want to add something.
What everyone told you is exactly the answer you need to know about Eq, and with practice you will get it to work in your favor. Now you must know Eq is not everything in a mix, there is much more and you need to read up on general mixing before just panning and eqing and calling it a final mix. Compression is also a very important part of a mix, so is using time based effects such as reverb or delays in a subtle way to make things more distant than others, and many more techniques you have to know, and you will only get to know them well after some good reading and understanding, and again: practice.
So I stand by my advice in my first post: read up on mixing basics
What everyone told you is exactly the answer you need to know about Eq, and with practice you will get it to work in your favor. Now you must know Eq is not everything in a mix, there is much more and you need to read up on general mixing before just panning and eqing and calling it a final mix. Compression is also a very important part of a mix, so is using time based effects such as reverb or delays in a subtle way to make things more distant than others, and many more techniques you have to know, and you will only get to know them well after some good reading and understanding, and again: practice.
So I stand by my advice in my first post: read up on mixing basics
Fox Mulder
The Truth Is Out There
The best trick to EQ-ing is:
1. Learn to meditate, to isolate your mind.
2. Concentrate on your mix over and over cutting yourself off everything around you, but remaining alert at the same time.
3. If you can't get no where, don't become a keyboard warrior and start bashing people online for no goddamn reason. Get diagnosed for Bipolar Disorder.
1. Learn to meditate, to isolate your mind.
2. Concentrate on your mix over and over cutting yourself off everything around you, but remaining alert at the same time.
3. If you can't get no where, don't become a keyboard warrior and start bashing people online for no goddamn reason. Get diagnosed for Bipolar Disorder.
