New album Foregone out February 2023

[Jester Slave]

Slave is just too weak to unapologetically stand his ground. No one is going to make fun of you if you enjoy the album, and it also doesn't mean that you are insane or retarded for enjoying something no one else finds enjoyable.

I am standing my ground by pointing out your asinine takes and your inconsistencies. You can try to spin it with this taking the high road attitude of yours, but you are just blabbering and avoiding the criticism. Though in this case you weren't personally called out, unless you also feel like you are someone who (rightfully) bitches about the band when they are being way too generic, but then have mindmelting takes like that few seconds at the ond of SWM where Anders is screaming somehow ruining that song for you.

 

[Jester Slave]

Yeah bruh, deep as fuck, just like that incredible mask metaphor. Whoa.

Ps. They already did it better on System.

Do you think System and Stay With Me are similar? Like, you are replacing Howard Benson, the band presents you these two songs, and you have but two options: 1. these songs can go onto the record 2. these songs are basically the same so it's redundant to have them both, pick one. What do you choose?

I'Ve lsitened to both SWM and System a shitton, but somehow never felt like they are treading on eachother's territory.

 

[drawntoblack]

I am standing my ground by pointing out your asinine takes and your inconsistencies.

So what's the end goal, you are going to strong-arm someone in a debate into liking the music?

 

[DE4life]

Do you think System and Stay With Me are similar? Like, you are replacing Howard Benson, the band presents you these two songs, and you have but two options: 1. these songs can go onto the record 2. these songs are basically the same so it's redundant to have them both, pick one. What do you choose?

I'Ve lsitened to both SWM and System a shitton, but somehow never felt like they are treading on eachother's territory.

Talking about the end of those songs, chief, not in their entirety. Same idea of the previously sung chorus being screamed in desperation at the end.

 

[A88]

Still not sure how a random scream elevates SWM from being awfully generic and average.

 

[DE4life]

Still not sure how a random scream elevates SWM from being awfully generic and average.

Dat epic storytelling bro. We're just too dumb to get it.

 

[Jester Slave]

So what's the end goal, you are going to strong-arm someone in a debate into liking the music?

No, I am showing them their inconsistencies in their own criticism and attitude. It won't convince them, but it does label them and their opinion about the band and their output. It should matter if you are giving an earnest review or something, or if you are just the folk who chimes in at every album release to remind everyone that you still think everything is shit and the last good year of this band was in 1725.

Talking about the end of those songs, chief, not in their entirety. Same idea of the previously sung chorus being screamed in desperation at the end.

This still leaves me with the same question which I had after reading "others have better growls" earlier today: okay, so? Two very different songs which reach similar conclusions, but one is more brutal than the other fine. Is that even a criticism in on itself? I think Take This Life is better than any song from Foregone, but that alone won't make this a shit record.

Plus it's not clear why or how would it have been better if SWM just ends with the same chorus it had throughout the song. Again, take a peak at Dialogue from this record and how the chorus feels more and more alien to the whole song. I have to laugh when it's being played the final time. No bridge, no altercation, just a big, red CHORUS button being pressed one final time.

 

[DE4life]

Bro, literally all I'm saying is that the screams at the end aren't a big deal to me either way I like the song regardless. It's not really the best track to choose as an example of this being a thing. The only reason I highlighted it was because (imo) SWM is good enough as a song to standalone as a purely commercial track. Screams weren't really necessary for me, but to be clear, they don't bother me either.

 

[Jester Slave]

At least they give a trajection, or rather a crescendo to the song. Not every song needs one, but that one benefitted a lot from it. If someone hates it, then those last 10 seconds or so won't change their mind, but elevates from the poorer Stay WIth Me imitations of Follow Me and All The Pain.

 

[A88]

Dat epic storytelling bro. We're just too dumb to get it.

Nah, it just that we're stuck in bad relationships and all that.

 

[DE4life]

Liberation is a track where the screams aren't needed. It isn't building to a crescendo, he just randomly starts screaming even though it isn't necessary.

 

[DE4life]

Nah, it just that we're stuck in bad relationships and all that.

Us and Anders are caught in a bad romance, whooaaooaaoaaaa...

 

[A88]

Us and Anders are caught in a bad romance, whooaaooaaoaaaa...

Rah, rah-ah-ah-ah
Roma, roma-ma
Anders, ooh-la-la...

Come to think of it, I like that song better than the whole Foregone album.

 

[Jester Slave]

Nah, it just that we're stuck in bad relationships and all that.

I had more fun sitting in the dentist's chair when that fucker didn't give me anesthesia, than you had with this band the last... 10 years? But sure, keep living in a denial.

Liberation is a track where the screams aren't needed. It isn't building to a crescendo, he just randomly starts screaming even though it isn't necessary.

In Romeo and Juliet both of our protagonists die.

In Titanic one of our protagonists die.

In Rocky I none of our protagonists die.

Yet all of these are famous plays and movies revolving about relationships. Things can be different and still good at the same time.

 

[DE4life]

Who says we aren't having fun?

 

[eochaid]

We should be paying for having these conversations.

 

[Moonshield_]

Has everyone of you listened to MYM through good headphones at loud volume? What a powerful song

I’d say the whole thing is awesome through my Marshall Major IV headphones

Edit : Ahah I find it funny that I seem to be the only one here to genuinely enjoy Foregone from start to finish whereas my first reaction was deception. It eventually grew a lot on me (except End the Transmission whose chorus isn’t really my cup of tea).

 

[Jester Slave]

Holy shit, this emoji sent me nearly 20 years back.

 

[DE4life]

You seriously changed your avatar? Bro, wtf.

 

[Jester Slave]

I watched Coco yesterday. It is something else, I'm telling you.