Yeah, looks like another of these AI image fads that are going around at the moment. It did make me chuckle, though, so good job.
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Yeah, looks like another of these AI image fads that are going around at the moment. It did make me chuckle, though, so good job.
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Yeah, they backed themselves into a corner starting with Reroute. Before that, their sets were quite varied. There was still some variety after Reroute, but this is where it started for sure. They fell into the arena band formula. They played the same songs over and over and now that's what people expect at the shows. They did very little to introduce their newer fans to their old material. And now it's way too late for them to do and expect a decent reaction.
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I don’t really follow the channel, but this just came up in my feed. It’s nothing too special for me, but I’m just glad he’s putting the song out there to a big audience of newer metalcore fans without completely bastardizing it.
They both did a cover of one of the new Sleep Token singles, and I really didn’t care for it. Just felt like they didn’t understand that band’s songwriting, so that was the sort of expectation I had for this video.
They both did a cover of one of the new Sleep Token singles, and I really didn’t care for it. Just felt like they didn’t understand that band’s songwriting, so that was the sort of expectation I had for this video.
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For some reason they have decided to play Sober and Irrelevant for the first time since 2010 and I guess third time ever.
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One of the better cuts from ASOP. Good on them for actually doing something different that doesn't involve pretending they give a shit about the classic albums. It'd be nice to hear stuff that hasn't been played often or at all from the mid-2000s period. Anders' modern live vocals do the ASOP songs far more justice now than on album, or live in the late 00s. It'd be cool to hear Condemned.
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I’m all for the band performing lesser played songs and deep cuts, but… Sober and Irrelevant? ASOP’s Bottled? Crowd’s reaction was appropriate there, that’s one of the few pre-SC songs I just wouldn’t get hype for, personally.
Don’t get me wrong, I’d still take it over The End or some bullshit, but there’s a lot of genuinely great songs to choose from.
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I was happier off forgetting about D&A, but that’s a fair comparison. D&A fucking sucks. Didn’t even have the dignity back in the day to let its instrumental version be for the entire song, at least not on iTunes. Krofius got the full thing though, so that’s cool.
TCP & D&A are definitely worse than Sober & Irrelevant. Sober is quite basic but it's got decent enough riffs, energy, speed. Not a patch on the majority of their previous work but not bad or boring.
There are many ASOP songs I would prefer to hear live instead, though - either because they are better live tracks or better songs. Mirror's Truth, Condemned, Drenched in Fear or March to the Shore. Sober and Irrelevant, to me, falls into that category of "OK" songs on the album which have limited replay value, alongside Move Through Me and I'm the Highway.
There are many ASOP songs I would prefer to hear live instead, though - either because they are better live tracks or better songs. Mirror's Truth, Condemned, Drenched in Fear or March to the Shore. Sober and Irrelevant, to me, falls into that category of "OK" songs on the album which have limited replay value, alongside Move Through Me and I'm the Highway.
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Definitely disagree about TCP, but I will say that the song has a minute too long of buildup, and it’s absolutely not good for a live setting.
Also, damn, they’ve never played Drenched in Fear live. That sucks, love that song.
TCP is one of those songs that needed more time to marinate, for me. It doesn't have enough ideas to justify its length. It's mostly just basic repeated chords throughout, and Anders' vocals... well, that's an ASOP problem in general, so, I won't pin it on this song alone.
I thought they did a much better job with Wallflower - one of the few songs on Battles to have any merit. It felt like they went back to the TCP formula but significantly improved it. Probably helps that Engelin wrote it. I only really think TCP has merit at the very end, but I'd never listen to the 6+ minutes beforehand just to get to that point.
I will say that they did a much better job with TCP live when I saw them in 2019. Ditched the intro, which thankfully shortened the song, and Anders' growled throughout - which actually fit the track quite well. Great growls too. I was pleasantly surprised.
I thought they did a much better job with Wallflower - one of the few songs on Battles to have any merit. It felt like they went back to the TCP formula but significantly improved it. Probably helps that Engelin wrote it. I only really think TCP has merit at the very end, but I'd never listen to the 6+ minutes beforehand just to get to that point.
I will say that they did a much better job with TCP live when I saw them in 2019. Ditched the intro, which thankfully shortened the song, and Anders' growled throughout - which actually fit the track quite well. Great growls too. I was pleasantly surprised.
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Yeah, ditching the intro absolutely fixes my issue with it. I love the song, I love the buildup, but the buildup is just a minute too long without justification for it. I agree with thinking that that’s what Wallflower really gets right.
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All I know is that even if they choose to play TCP live (which is a mistake imo), it should NEVER be used as an opener, which they've done several times. It is an awful opener. Personally, I think it's an awful song to begin with, but Jesus, what a poor way to open a show. I remember when I saw Avenged Sevenfold back in 2002, they had like a 15 minute pre-tape intro and it sucked all the fucking air out of the room. Lights down, no band on stage, just a pre-tape. For FIFTEEN MINUTES. It was brutal. Obviously TCP isn't that extreme, but still.
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As much as I like TCP, I definitely don’t think it makes for a good live song aside from the ending third or so. The A7X thing is fucked up though— Why the actual fuck would you waste fifteen minutes of your precious performing time? That’s a good 3-5 songs worth of time you could’ve been giving your fans what they actually came for. Shit’s fucked.
They played TCP as an opener when I saw them back in the day, in 2008. It absolutely sucked. Terrible way to open the show. If it started off kinda mellow and then burst into life then it'd be fine (think of a song like Square Nothing), but playing the full 7+ minutes was an awful beginning. You want a band like In Flames to come roaring out of the gates with energy. The first time I saw them in 2005 it was TQP, awesome. When I saw them in 2006 they opened with Pinball map, very nice. Bloodstock 2007 was Leeches, cool. 2019 was Voices - again, nice opener.
The only thing I will say about 2008 is that, opener aside, the setlist was pretty interesting. I'm the Highway, Vanishing Light, Insipid 2000, Behind Space/TJR/Dead God medley and Move Through Me were all quite rare in terms of outings. Some OG classics in there like System, Colony, etc as well. Best of all, though, was Satellites and Astronauts. A GOAT-tier IF track for me personally, and I'm grateful to have seen it played with the lineup that recorded the original song. It was kinda like they walked into my house, the five of them introduced themselves with a rip-roaring fart in unison, then proceeded to decorate the place very nicely. I don't appreciate how you entered, but I respect what you did afterwards.
2006 was cool too, although not that much in the way of rare songs. It was great to see Crawl Through Knives live, as that was at the time my favourite off Come Clarity. Vaccum also got a rare appearance, another song I very much like from CC. I appreciated seeing some OG classics - Moonshield, Episode 666, System, Behind Space, Trigger... at the time the Reroute stuff was still quite new, granted.
The only thing I will say about 2008 is that, opener aside, the setlist was pretty interesting. I'm the Highway, Vanishing Light, Insipid 2000, Behind Space/TJR/Dead God medley and Move Through Me were all quite rare in terms of outings. Some OG classics in there like System, Colony, etc as well. Best of all, though, was Satellites and Astronauts. A GOAT-tier IF track for me personally, and I'm grateful to have seen it played with the lineup that recorded the original song. It was kinda like they walked into my house, the five of them introduced themselves with a rip-roaring fart in unison, then proceeded to decorate the place very nicely. I don't appreciate how you entered, but I respect what you did afterwards.
2006 was cool too, although not that much in the way of rare songs. It was great to see Crawl Through Knives live, as that was at the time my favourite off Come Clarity. Vaccum also got a rare appearance, another song I very much like from CC. I appreciated seeing some OG classics - Moonshield, Episode 666, System, Behind Space, Trigger... at the time the Reroute stuff was still quite new, granted.
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