Empathy
Bulging Member
As much as I love the idea of the stripped down amp/cab only AxeFX, they're probably announcing a successor model.
New Fractal Audio Product in 5 day's
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Amp/cab-only unit would be really cool, don't have use for any of the FX. On my PODxt Pro the only effect I ever use is the TS model, maybe a delay once in a great while when wanking about but that's it.
JeffTD
Senhor Testiculo
It most definitely won't be a floorboard unit, as that would cannibalize sales of their own footswitch, and Axe-PC is not coming anytime soon. Cliff ran some tests and found that a standard Ultra patch takes up about 80% of an i7... good luck running multiple instances!
Crazy, I can run a ton of PODfarm instances, guess that goes to show how much more processing power AxeFX has/requires.
drew_drummer
Dancefap
Conversely, I'm hoping for an FX only option, for about £600 say. I tried a Pod HD, it was bollocks... totally ruined my lovely Fryette tone.
I just don't need the plethora of amp/cab options that the Axe has, as good as they sound. But I *do* need a massive range of effects, and the ability to recall loads of 'pedalboard' presets.
I just don't need the plethora of amp/cab options that the Axe has, as good as they sound. But I *do* need a massive range of effects, and the ability to recall loads of 'pedalboard' presets.
Drew have you checked out the TC Electronics offerings? A friend of mine has some pedalboard unit from them, looks really nice, he's a tone purist and loves the thing.
EDIT: I think it's this thing http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/NovaSystem/ but I could have sworn the one he had was a bigger version or something.
EDIT: I think it's this thing http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/NovaSystem/ but I could have sworn the one he had was a bigger version or something.
drew_drummer
Dancefap
The G-System you're talking about yeah? I've never used it unfortunately. At the moment I'm gassing for Eventide stompboxes.
I updated my post with a link to the unit, I thought it was the G but it's the Nova. Nova has the GMajor, G and some other unit's effects all in one, analog overdrive and distortion with digital fx, 60 presets, bla bla. $500US new too, not bad.
drew_drummer
Dancefap
Ah. I've got pretty specific needs for my effects - for instance for some songs, I need a reverse delay, a long delay, a short delay, and a reverb.... and the Nova only has one delay block. I think that's why I sort of passed over on it before, not really flexible enough for the range of sounds I want.
Which is why an Axe-FX (fx only) unit would greatly interest me. a half rack unit, or a floorboard unit, with the same high-quality AD/DA of the full Axe-FX ... would be great.
TigerSHARCs processing power is joke compared to a present intel machine. It is still the fastest DSP available, but nothing compared to an intel:
TigerSHARC 4.0 GFLOPS << 55.0 GFLOPS intel i7.
Kemper of KemperAmps explained once, that the DSPs had their advantages in speed and programming convenience 10 years ago.
- The inconvenience has been solved by SSE2 technology.
- speed? Well, even the TigerSHARC is very slow.
They serve well as a super expensive dongle. That's their task today.
drew_drummer
Dancefap
TigerSHARCs processing power is joke compared to a present intel machine. It is still the fastest DSP available, but nothing compared to an intel:
TigerSHARC 4.0 GFLOPS << 55.0 GFLOPS intel i7.
Kemper of KemperAmps explained once, that the DSPs had their advantages in speed and programming convenience 10 years ago.
- The inconvenience has been solved by SSE2 technology.
- speed? Well, even the TigerSHARC is very slow.
They serve well as a super expensive dongle. That's their task today.
As I understand it, it's quite difficult to port code written in assembly for DSP chips, over to C++ designed to run on CPU's. The reason Fractal experienced 80% CPU usage was most likely due to their code not being optimized for a stock CPU.
It would be a massive undertaking for them to release anything not using TigerSHARC chips - as far as I know anyways. I'm no coder, not quite enough of a nerd. Teehee.
Kemper said he not going to port anything to the intel platform, neither the Virus synths or the KemperAmps. Keeps the pirates away.
If fractal wants to sell their products in the future, they keep the dsp solution
Like Uaudio.
SSL ported Duende within a year and you know the story...
If fractal wants to sell their products in the future, they keep the dsp solution
Like Uaudio.
SSL ported Duende within a year and you know the story...
A buddy of mine uses the G-System with his Diezel VH-4 and now he´s selling it for the Eventide stomboxes. The converters are butchering the tone.
amarshism
Member
drew_drummer
Dancefap
Yeah, I think the Time Factor, Mod Factor, and SPACE pedals, plus a midi controller, would be a very formidable setup.
sprack
Thread Killer
Pure GFLOPS are not a fair comparison. The Stratix4 FPGA gets 171 GFLOPS/core, NVidia's Tesla is over 1000 GFLOPS.
DSP has a huge power and cost advantage.
DSP has a huge power and cost advantage.
TigerSHARCs processing power is joke compared to a present intel machine. It is still the fastest DSP available, but nothing compared to an intel:
TigerSHARC 4.0 GFLOPS << 55.0 GFLOPS intel i7.
Kemper of KemperAmps explained once, that the DSPs had their advantages in speed and programming convenience 10 years ago.
- The inconvenience has been solved by SSE2 technology.
- speed? Well, even the TigerSHARC is very slow.
They serve well as a super expensive dongle. That's their task today.
Ok, dsp power myth will be busted by uaudio, soon. When the SPL/brainworx dsp verison are out and uad instance chart has been updated.
jipchen
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I haven't been keeping too up to date on the Fractal Audio advancements, but if they do make a plugin, I can only assume that the expanded processing power would be beneficial but as always stated, its the impulse technology that could use a bit of refining.
Also, I wonder. Would making a plugin be a good idea, since keeping things strictly hardware hinder the pirating aspect. I imagine if they did a plugin it would obviously be cracked and made available thru the interwebz.
Also, I wonder. Would making a plugin be a good idea, since keeping things strictly hardware hinder the pirating aspect. I imagine if they did a plugin it would obviously be cracked and made available thru the interwebz.
They haven't even given the smallest amount of information about the new product. As there is a countdown on the g66.eu website it has to be hardware. Why should the distributor hype a product they won't distribute like a plugin.
