NEW MIX FOR REVIEW OR WHATEVER....

[John Haddad (Shiva Industries)]

Mastering the stuff right now and thought i might get some input....you guys always have interesting stuff to say...

http://www.revolutiondrum.com/mp3/tos.mp3

 

[AudioPhile777]

Should remember to put it in the rate mix/tone sub next time...

it sounds kind of sterile to me... maybe there isnt enough room/verb on the kit... or maybe the guitars are too loud...

the cymbals are definitely distracting, maybe bring them down a bit...

 

[smy1]

I disagree ... AudioPhile, where do you want the ambience to go - in a busy mix like that? Maybe in the slow parts ... could be interesting to really raise the roommic faders ...

Only listening to it on small speakers ("real world listening environment", haha!) and I have no complaints. If it was my production the vocals would be louder, but I have a very commercial/pop-oriented approach. For that kind of music, they are good.

Only gripe is with some timing mistakes that need fixing ...

 

[AudioPhile777]

I just call it like I hear it in my "real world environment"... i.e. my cheap $20 headphones.

 

[smy1]

I just call it like I hear it in my "real world environment"... i.e. my cheap $20 headphones.

See, there's a big difference. Headphones (of any price-range) will play back more ambience and effects than speakers. I recently mixed a project where the record label wanted it to be mixed specifically with headphones in mind, because it was going to be an "ITunes only" release. Actually mixing for headphones becomes more and more important in commercial music these days because kids just put mp3s on their players and listen to it through headphones on the way to school.

In this case, you may have picked up on the *lack* of ambience, because headphones just display ambience better. While I was happy with it, because of the room ambience coming into play here.

Actually, your comment made me think about tastefully "drowning" some of the slow parts in ambience and see how it sounds ... for the blasts, I still think that ambience should be minimal to not cloud up the mix.

 

[John Haddad (Shiva Industries)]

Thanks for the comments thus far...

I normally use more ambience but decided against it here. there is a decent amount of verb on the other songs just felt dry was the ticket on this one.

 

[Soundlurker]

I would have a bit less mids in the mix overall and a bit more lows in the kick (and maybe less in the bass guitar). The snare sounds a bit robotic.

Otherwise, very clean mix

 

[cobhc]

I would have thought if anything the ambience would have been MORE audible on headphones, thus I would have thought Audiophile would have heard too much verb, rather than not enough.

 

[smy1]

I would have thought if anything the ambience would have been MORE audible on headphones, thus I would have thought Audiophile would have heard too much verb, rather than not enough.

Yes, that is what I am saying!

Headphones produce more audible ambience. Therefore if there is a lack of ambience Audiophile will notice it because he will be missing the "room sound".

I, however, won't notice a lack of ambience, cause my girlfriend's room (where I am listening at her computer with her logitech speakers) creates extra ambience.

That's why he complained about lack of ambience and I said that it sounded fine to me.

Hope that makes sense ...