New Orleans turns to international financial aid

[flying_whale]

you have a point Dead Winter, change comes with the people not parties, and politicians.
But from the standpiont of a US leader, they should rebuild New Orleans before the Russians and Chinese do it. Both Putin and whatishisface Chinese leader are open to starve to death a million Russains and Chinese to rebuild New Orleans to embarrass the US. Even if this won't be known in the US, because the media won't report that much on it, they are gonna make A HUGE deal out of it outside the US

 

[Dead Winter]

you have a point Dead Winter, change comes with the people not parties, and politicians.
But from the standpiont of a US leader, they should rebuild New Orleans before the Russians and Chinese do it.

I agree...our money is always better than anyone else's. It's like living with your parents. You'd rather have your own place and make your own money rather than living under someone else's rules.

However, maybe it will improve our standing with the world in the long run. I really don't think there's this high and mighty attitude from people in the US anymore. I think we got knocked down a peg or two after this war. I think people in the US would rather be on equal footing with the rest of the world instead of the leader. This way, we can be a little more selfish and focus more on us. Of course, militarily we'll be superior, but we're definitely not economically.

It's time to stop wiping everyone's asses and just get paid for the babysitting and go home.

 

[flying_whale]

This is not really related, but the history of the US shows that there have been cycles varying between 20 to 40 years of shifts between isolationalism and being an active member on the world stage (or imperialism as others might call it). I predict if this comes true, the US will pull out of Iraq and start isolating itself a little.
After the civil war the US isolated itself, no major foreign affair stuff took place, then Teddy Roosevelt came in office and the US became once again active and that was that until the 20s, after Wilson left the office, the US once again isolated itself, up until the second election of FDR, and then got involved again a little up to WWII, and then started containing the USSR and commies after WWII. After the cold war the US acted like international policeman, and probably that will stop pretty soon, and the US will isolate themselves a little (especially if a democrat wins in 2009), and will not do much for the next 20 years or so, then I predict cold war 2 US vs EU or US vs China or a 3 way US vs China vs EU

 

[derek]

With the advent of the military industrial complex, it is doubtful that American foreign policy will remain unexercised for any significant amount of time.

The rise of India and China, especially, will contribute to that. Nevermind the instability practically everywhere East of Western Europe.

Also, cyclical theories of history may appeal in a simplistic Aristotelian way, but they tend to glaze over specifics to smooth out the idea. America, in quite a general sense, was very introverted for quite some time. The world stage means that is unlikely to ever be the case again, considering her prominent role on it.

 

[deathstrike from hell]

Fuck em. They brought the katrina victims to cleveland stadium, and magically the crime rate goes up.

I say let the fucking gators have it.

 

[JBroll]

Other kings said I was daft to build a castle on a swamp, but I built it all the same, just to show 'em. It sank into the swamp. So, I built a second one. That sank into the swamp. So, I built a third one. That burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp, but the fourth one... stayed up! And that's what you're gonna get, lad: the strongest castle in these islands.

How many is it going to take us?

Jeff

 

[flying_whale]

want to hear something funny?
here it is, something dick cheney about not pursuing the conquest or Iraq, and elimination of saddam in the first gulf war (i'm researching for my paper):

"I would guess if we had gone in there, I would still have forces in Baghdad today. We'd be running the country. We would not have been able to get everybody out and bring everybody home.

And the final point that I think needs to be made is this question of casualties. I don't think you could have done all of that without significant additional U.S. casualties, and while everybody was tremendously impressed with the low cost of the (1991) conflict, for the 146 Americans who were killed in action and for their families, it wasn't a cheap war.

And the question in my mind is, how many additional American casualties is Saddam (Hussein) worth? And the answer is, not that damned many. So, I think we got it right, both when we decided to expel him from Kuwait, but also when the President made the decision that we'd achieved our objectives and we were not going to go get bogged down in the problems of trying to take over and govern Iraq."

another reason this administration needs cockslapping

 

[derek]

"Fuck this, fuck that. As long as I don't have to get involved, I don't give a shit"

It is a shame the most powerful nation on earth (the one with the resources, if used correctly, to truly change things not only in America, but all over the world) is populated by such shallow, introspective bastards.

I still think some of you that have expressed a view like this are genuinely good people, but c'mon!

 

[Dead Winter]

"Fuck this, fuck that. As long as I don't have to get involved, I don't give a shit"

Dude, that's the American way. Welcome to every college campus in the US.

 

[Burti]

ALERT!

DETECT BLANKET STATEMENT!

/thread terminate

 

[neal]

"Fuck this, fuck that. As long as I don't have to get involved, I don't give a shit"!

can i get this on a tshirt?

 

[mReEtTaIlRsEkD]

srsly.

 

[derek]

can i get this on a tshirt?

I will make it personally, if you let me take you out to a nice dinner.

 

[neal]