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I like the new look...Won't be buying it until my current one takes a shit though. And i'm def stoked for kinekt, I can't wait to try that out.
GarethSE
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Kinect is a gimmick that shows no signs of having any games with even the slightest amount of depth.
And this new slim 360, jesus christ, yes, what a fucking fantastic idea, our console has over a 50% failure rate because it OVERHEATS and thus BREAKS, let's make a SMALLER VERSION OF IT, because that'll fix the fucking problem!
And you know how they're dealing with it this time around? Giving you a warning that the console's getting too hot and shutting it off until a light stops beeping. I fail to see how that is progress. This is a fucking regression.
And this new slim 360, jesus christ, yes, what a fucking fantastic idea, our console has over a 50% failure rate because it OVERHEATS and thus BREAKS, let's make a SMALLER VERSION OF IT, because that'll fix the fucking problem!
And you know how they're dealing with it this time around? Giving you a warning that the console's getting too hot and shutting it off until a light stops beeping. I fail to see how that is progress. This is a fucking regression.
Completely agree about Kinect, if they are looking for a more comfortable/better controller, MOUSE AND FUCKING KEYBOARD!!
I don't want to be standing in my room waving my arms about, even in the presence of myself I'd feel like a cunt.
When I saw it I thought it was the final design of Project Natal (now Kinekt). It looks good, "hi tech" and without the plastic feel, but in the end I like the classic white design better. The white, light grey and details on green is more iconic. Hi-tech piano black gadgets are too generic.
As Gareth said, I´m also not sure if it was a good idea putting it on a smaller case. Tons of PS2 slim had broken due to problems related to overheating, but I guess Microsoft put the new design to some serious test before release it. Actually the new design is probably to put the overheating problem in the past. The Jasper board had already eliminated it, but as the case design kept the same I guess some people were still afraid.
Anyway, I don´t get these japanese guys who keeps buying the same thing over and over again just because they´ve changed the design.
As Gareth said, I´m also not sure if it was a good idea putting it on a smaller case. Tons of PS2 slim had broken due to problems related to overheating, but I guess Microsoft put the new design to some serious test before release it. Actually the new design is probably to put the overheating problem in the past. The Jasper board had already eliminated it, but as the case design kept the same I guess some people were still afraid.
Anyway, I don´t get these japanese guys who keeps buying the same thing over and over again just because they´ve changed the design.
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I have a friend that works in game and application development for microsoft, and he was able to give me some insight as to the new xbox slims.
The new design wasn't just throwing the same shitty hardware into a smaller casing. They did beef up the fans and made the case breathe better so it wouldn't overheat as much. Yes it does give you a warning if it's overheating (which is def. better than the last design to bascially just kill itself), but that's only in extreme scenarios. Even the best computers today still can overheat and cause damage to itself if not properly cooled, if it's left on all the time, etc. Same with the xbox. If you're dumb and leave it on all the time, tucked away in a bookcase or under a desk, or stack games or other warm electronics on it, yes it will overheat. The new slim was designed to be better and not overheat because they were sick of getting a ton of xboxes being sent back to them. It costs them money in manpower to fix it, so why make another sack of shit again? Of course, the caveat he warned me with is that the new xbox was tested under ideal conditions of having at least 10" of room to the left and right of the new xbox giving it breathing room. This isn't a problem for me as I usually just have it sittting on TOP of my entertainment center anyway.
Another big advantage is WiFi and the 250gig hd.
Yes I will definitely be buying this, despite the fact I've already had my old xbox RRoD twice on me. Each time, microsoft fixed it and had it back to me within about 10 days no problem. So if this one dies, i'll send it in for replacement as well. No biggie. It's on their dime if it fucks up.
I see nothing but positives about the new xbox with a lot of major improvements all around compared to the older versions.
The new design wasn't just throwing the same shitty hardware into a smaller casing. They did beef up the fans and made the case breathe better so it wouldn't overheat as much. Yes it does give you a warning if it's overheating (which is def. better than the last design to bascially just kill itself), but that's only in extreme scenarios. Even the best computers today still can overheat and cause damage to itself if not properly cooled, if it's left on all the time, etc. Same with the xbox. If you're dumb and leave it on all the time, tucked away in a bookcase or under a desk, or stack games or other warm electronics on it, yes it will overheat. The new slim was designed to be better and not overheat because they were sick of getting a ton of xboxes being sent back to them. It costs them money in manpower to fix it, so why make another sack of shit again? Of course, the caveat he warned me with is that the new xbox was tested under ideal conditions of having at least 10" of room to the left and right of the new xbox giving it breathing room. This isn't a problem for me as I usually just have it sittting on TOP of my entertainment center anyway.
Another big advantage is WiFi and the 250gig hd.
Yes I will definitely be buying this, despite the fact I've already had my old xbox RRoD twice on me. Each time, microsoft fixed it and had it back to me within about 10 days no problem. So if this one dies, i'll send it in for replacement as well. No biggie. It's on their dime if it fucks up.
I see nothing but positives about the new xbox with a lot of major improvements all around compared to the older versions.
Virgil.
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i just think its funny that in order to fix an over heating problem they just install an internal killswitch...
why not just put in more fans and better heat sinks ?
What makes you so sure they didn't?
They did replace the old two tiny fans with one big ass fan, put in better heat syncs, and changed the cpu layout in relation to everything else.
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What makes you so sure they didn't?
fair play but if they've worked on these issues already then if they're still having to add in the killswitch option with overheating, that would lead to the question
'why didn't they do the job properly?'
i know they wished to make the xbox fit into a smaller form but i'd be pretty sure the customer would prefer form over function in this instance.
Just look at the ugly ass PS3.
JayB
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Not a fanboy but I think Move is looking better / more well designed than Kinect. PS3 already has sixaxis motion control built in , Xbox is just tacking on a whole other system onto their console
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Playstation Move isn't looking that much better, but after playing Resident Evil 4 Wii Edition (and having my faith restored in motion controls temporarily) I would gladly shell out for it just so I could play Resident Evil 5 with the same controls as the Wii Edition of resi 4.
It wasn't so much a problem with overheating as it was with the shitty cheap solder that they used in the old design, coupled with the x-clamp design, the solder would become to hot and get brittle and some components would separate from the board. That's why you could theoretically overheat the xbox on purpose and get it to work again, the solder would reapply itself after super heating, temporarily though.
The new one has the final chipset revision that was planned for the 360 called valhalla or something. I think I read somewhere that it does have slightly improved performance, more graphics ram or something like that, but a small improvement.
The new one has the final chipset revision that was planned for the 360 called valhalla or something. I think I read somewhere that it does have slightly improved performance, more graphics ram or something like that, but a small improvement.
Virgil.
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Like I said, this one doesn't have a problem with overheating unless you're a dumbass and run your xbox in ways that would overheat any system really. The killswitch option is there as a last resort so you don't fuck up your machine. I would much rather have that than just have my machine die.
Loren Littlejohn
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I want one. That's saying a lot because I have not owned a 360 since it came out. I have owned every other system however.
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Well for what it's worth, I won't be getting one of these. I'm getting both my bricked 360's fixed soon then selling them plus my entire collection. If you can't build a machine that works, don't fucking sell them.
My N64 still works, my bud's snes still works, if I still had my NES I expect that'd still work too. I've only had my PS3 since last december so time shall tell whether it holds out, but they seem fairly sturdy.
My N64 still works, my bud's snes still works, if I still had my NES I expect that'd still work too. I've only had my PS3 since last december so time shall tell whether it holds out, but they seem fairly sturdy.
JayB
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Mine shat out twice , my bro's the same. They make all this technology to break after a few years so you have to buy a new one. I got a Slim model and insured it for 3 years , when that 3 years comes I will trade it in for whatever is out then , all this shit is a ticking time bomb lol. Like you said , N64 and SNES from how long ago still works , and a PS3 or 360 from a year ago could break at any moment. Aside from that , I wanna play Socom 4 with the move , also EA Active 2.0 , already preordered that
kaomao
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like all new things, they're not made to last.
My grandma had a refrigerator that was 40/50 fucking years old I mean 40/50 years fucking old and that was still working, now find me something like that....
XBox maybe has something integrated to kill itself after some years lol
My grandma had a refrigerator that was 40/50 fucking years old I mean 40/50 years fucking old and that was still working, now find me something like that....
XBox maybe has something integrated to kill itself after some years lol
