Next mixing context - Deadline August 12, 2006 @ Midnight

No problem man, if I can offer anything at all in terms of help Im more than happy to, as I have learnt so much from this forum. From these mixes I have done from your recordings, I have sorted out 2 bands to record in August. Expect plenty of samples coming then!

MKS - Although we have Glenns mighty drum recording thread, Id be curious to know what your take is on it. Where do you place your OH's etc. I have a little experience recording drums, but Id still really like some more tips.
 
Machinated said:
No problem man, if I can offer anything at all in terms of help Im more than happy to, as I have learnt so much from this forum. From these mixes I have done from your recordings, I have sorted out 2 bands to record in August. Expect plenty of samples coming then!

Well, I have a baby asleep on me right now (so metal) so I can't listen to it too loud but I'm impressed so far. I think the drummer would be very pleased with the drum sound and he's one picky prick. :)
 
Machinated said:
BTW MKS I really enjoyed mixing both of these tunes that you have put up. Its invaluble experience for me, as having a complete set of metal recordings to play with aren't so easy to find for people looking for more experience, and its perfect practise. I really appreciate it, as Im sure everyone else does here, and long may it continue :kickass:

^This^ - the only other stuff I really get to play with is either my own recordings or the odd friend's band, so things like this are a great way to get some experience :kickass:

Steve
 
Machinated said:
No problem man, if I can offer anything at all in terms of help Im more than happy to, as I have learnt so much from this forum. From these mixes I have done from your recordings, I have sorted out 2 bands to record in August. Expect plenty of samples coming then!

MKS - Although we have Glenns mighty drum recording thread, Id be curious to know what your take is on it. Where do you place your OH's etc. I have a little experience recording drums, but Id still really like some more tips.

Funny you should ask.

This drummer hates being recorded in big rooms. So for shits in giggles, I wrapped his kit in acoustic blankets. I used heavy duty plastic clamps to hold the blankets to the drum rack. Basically, all you could see is his higher mounted cymbals that peaked above the blankets.

I also have some auralex xpanders. I used one on each mic to help isolate the mic.
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I placed the OH mics behind the kit about 6 feet high. I aimed them both at the snare. They were also about 6 feet apart.

I placed the ambient about 5 feet high and 6 feet directly in front of the kit.

Snare - SM57 & DDrum Trigger -> RME Firewire 800
Under Snare (Acutally on the floor) - Sennheiser MD421II -> RME Firewire 800
Kick - e602 & DDrum Trigger -> RME Firewire 800
Toms - e604 -> M-Audio Octane
Ride - MAudio Nova Condenser Microphone -> M-Audio Octane
Hats - MAudio Nova Condenser Microphone -> M-Audio Octane
Overheads - (2) Behringer B2 Pro Microphone -> M-Audio Octane
Ambient - Rode K2 Tube Microphone -> M-Audio Octane

I have 4 large bass traps in the room and the entire room is almost completely engulfed in acoustic foam. Honestly, I think it's overkill but we had to keep peace with the neighbors.

Here's a shitty pic I took with my phone.
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So, the moral of the story. Keep trusting Oz for advice. I'm just experimenting with different setups. Obviously he knows what works.
 
Machinated,

I'm really diggin' that mix so far. No real complaints. I really like the drum sound.
 
Pretty cool. I tried it first using Kazrogs impulsess thru my Pod for the guitars and WOW! But, those are his ......so I just used Logics' AmpPro plug-in for geetars! Mixed the kick with a D.F.H.1 Sonor kick sample and gave each guitar it's own domain:goggly: Put the drumkit thru a Altiverb 'WestLake Studio' I.R.
Lots of SSL Waves plug-ins.
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:Smug: GORILLA :lol:
 
I will probably have this drummer in the studio again this weekend. His other band "Buried by Angels" will be recording 1 song. I'm doing it for free so I can test out my new drum recording setup.

I'm going to document the entire recording process. I hope to include some pics and maybe even some vids.
 
felipe-x said:
how did you set up drumagog for the snare?

hmm, I used the visual mode to set the threshold, used the advanced algorithm, and (obviously) triggered from the snare's trigger track. i do believe i had the "dynamic tracking" ticked as well..

i'm still not happy with how it's triggering some parts but, eh... still working on it. :)

Charlie
 
CJWall said:
hmm, I used the visual mode to set the threshold, used the advanced algorithm, and (obviously) triggered from the snare's trigger track. i do believe i had the "dynamic tracking" ticked as well..

i'm still not happy with how it's triggering some parts but, eh... still working on it. :)

Charlie


:P could you take a screen shoot in the visual mode and dynamic tracking plz?? every time i try to do that everything goes wrong with double hits in the snare.. and some bleeding shit.. :s i have drumagog 4 now :)


thnks for your time
 
felipe-x said:
:P could you take a screen shoot in the visual mode and dynamic tracking plz?? every time i try to do that everything goes wrong with double hits in the snare.. and some bleeding shit.. :s i have drumagog 4 now :)


thnks for your time

are you sure you're using the highest algorithm? If you use the visual mode, you'll see all the hits scrolling by, adjust as the song plays..

I'd take a shot of my settings but I'm having quite some trouble with this project file in Nuendo. It's not wanting to load my plug-ins main sceens. They'll pop up but, all I see is white and no parameters are shown. All my Waves plugs seem to work but my Sonalksis and URS stuff doesn't want to..

I've opened other projects and all my plugs work fine; Waves, URS, Sonalksis etc... Anyone know what this could be? I'm guessing I'm using a plug-in that Nuendo doesn't like, this has happened before, usually it's some free plug that is maybe a bit buggy..

Charlie