not really katatonia-related

staalestygg

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It is very difficult these days to find something that is really hard and at the same time real. One of the first, I guess nu-metal bands, I started listening to was Deftones. After that there was SOAD (the first album!!!!) and then a friend of mine told me about Amorphis!! The Tuonela cd is still one of the best black metal cds I have heard. I think their from Finland, but I think the cd was made in Sweden.

Anyway, I'm just talking bull here... Do you guys think the rest of the world can measure up to Scandinavia when it comes to death/black metal? Some of my other favourites are Dimmu Borgir, TSOTB, Tristania +++
 
It depends on what you're after. I find it really interesting that each country has it's own identifyable style, you can pretty much hear a band and know where they're from.

American bands tend to be more technical, with lots of complex riffs, whereas English bands go for a more chord based approach, with a dose of melody. Scandinavian bands tend to take a more melodic approach. This is the same for classical music though, the musicians from the US have better technique, those from Europe tend to have more feeling (this isn't a criticism of either side though, just an observation).

In regards to Black metal, I'd say no to your question. I think the lack of overt emotion in American music (I don't mean the musicians aren't feeling it, it's to do with song construction and approach) inhibits their efforts (name 5 american BM bands- the only one I can think of is Ancient, and they were fronted by a Norwegian), which is also true in regards to Doom (exceptions here also (such as Morgion), but compare it as a whole to their British and European counterparts). There are some ok english BM bands, so too other countries, but the bulk of the good stuff comes from Norway and Sweden.

In regards to death metal, this is more open to personal taste (IMHO, as I see the pool of top-notch BM bands as being quite small, whereas by comparison, the pool of really good DM bands is large). I mean, Death and Deicide are obviously American, they could come from nowhere else. Bolt Thrower and Napalm Death could not be mistaken as coming from anywhere other than the UK. And we are all (over-)familiar with the whole Gothenburg sound etc... So it really depends on what you class as good death metal, I like them all and don't see any one region as having a definite advantage.

Disclaimer: yes, this post is full of generalisations, and there are exceptions to everything, but hopefully you get my point :p
 
I don't want to rain on anyone's parade.... but I'm not sure if you've got your definition of black metal completely correct.

You see,

Amorphis= not black metal.

Black metal bands= black metal.
 
amorphis is no way black metal. their old stuff (priviledge of evil and karelean isthmus) are doom-death. the "tales from..." album is melodic death with folk influences, just as elegy is...though elegy is WAY more melodic, and even progressive. teh same goes for tounela. now amorphis -with their last album, am universum- are doing a fusion of psychedelic rock and metal.
 
Whatever they are, they're amazing. Well, I only have Tales From the Thousand Lakes, My Kantele e.p, Elegy and.. um, that's it, cause the new stuff doesn't really get me. My friend's got Tuonela but doesn't really like it much either.

And my personally favourite is Elegy. Sentimental favourite is Tales.