Oh jesus fucking fistfuck christ....

noteabley this is SHIT, Betraying the Martys is REALLY fucking good. just my generalization.

I can understand that argument, I just disagree that they write good music.
I find the whole scene fairly abhorrent tbh

Also I'm not trying to be a dick, I'm sure that the guy from the band (who posts on here) is happy doing what he's doing and not really bothered about what I think.
 
Cj is fucking great engineer. Fact remains that their music is in the same category as those other bands, and just because one of them is a member it doesn't mean we can't express our distaste for them.

Fair enough. But I just can't see autotuned canadians with techno synths in the same category as Betraying the Martyrs. I find the BTM album enjoyable to listen to and wouldn't ever listen to Abandon all Ships, to me they are very different. But I guess we just differ on this point.
 
These guys make Lady Gaga sound like Deicide.


Afterthought: If you out-pussy something that actually has a pussy, then you are a true douchetard.

I thought that was still up for debate. :lol:

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at risk of being raped and strangled, I really don't understand all the hate. The production on this is nothing short of awesome and as far as the music goes, they are just doing there own thing. Sure its absolutely fucking awful sounding and I would never play it at will, but its really not done that bad (as far as in a mix, I'm sure live they would be atrocious).

Its not like its something like this

 
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at risk of being raped and strangled, I really don't understand all the hate. The production on this is nothing short of awesome and as far as the music goes, they are just doing there own thing. Sure its absolutely fucking awful sounding and I would never play it at will, but its really not done that bad (as far as in a mix, I'm sure live they would be atrocious).

Its not like its something like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAaw9KDlc3Y

If I took off the wrap and box from Godiva chocolates and stuck dookie in there would it make it any less shitty? :loco:

rhetorical question yeah but this is the packaging zone as far as the analogy is concerned. Proof production can't save shit music as far as I'm concerned.
 
sorry dude but you are SO late to the party... i knew the song in demo form before the album release and they just butchered it (YES THIS IS POSSIBLE; THIS VERSION IS WORSE THAN THE DEMO)

and besides the whole synchronized douchething and the christianity , i quite like the album. Of course its rehashed metalcore with a splash of the technoes but it got some edge i somehow like.
 
If I took off the wrap and box from Godiva chocolates and stuck dookie in there would it make it any less shitty? :loco:

rhetorical question yeah but this is the packaging zone as far as the analogy is concerned. Proof production can't save shit music as far as I'm concerned.

yeah but in the same sense all music is subjective. That being said, music played well (within the production in this case) versus music just played terribly, regardless of genre, the music played well would be considered better.

Just my 2 cents :Spin:

Edit: This is one reason I never really understood the whole rebecca black "friday" thing. Sure it was awful, but its not like she has an absolutely awful voice and the music was complete shit. It was done well for what it was, but of course for what it was, I thought it was shit. I also hate pop
 
I toured with these guys this summer (they were on half of Warped). Aside from the drummer (Adam's buddy, who is a scab), it was just a bunch of Canadian guidos - straight up Jersey Shore fucks, but without the muscles or ability to get laid (no joke, some of them walked around with whiteboards that had "cute girls 18+ come talk to us!" written on them). Every night they would set up tables behind their trailer and play beer pong/flip cup... it was like a fucking frat party every day with those guys.

One of my favorite moments of tour was watching them from side stage in Ohio as I was still tearing down gear when they went on. Singer comes up, and starts his banter...

"yo guys... how the fuck are you doing..."
*looks to stage manager*
"where the FUCK are we?"

"Iowa."

*back into mic*
"...IOWA" <- cue HUGE shiteating grin.


Watch the live videos, its fucking awful. They fist pump constantly and ask that the crowd does the same.
 
yeah but in the same sense all music is subjective. That being said, music played well (within the production in this case) versus music just played terribly, regardless of genre, the music played well would be considered better.

Just my 2 cents :Spin:

Edit: This is one reason I never really understood the whole rebecca black "friday" thing. Sure it was awful, but its not like she has an absolutely awful voice and the music was complete shit. It was done well for what it was, but of course for what it was, I thought it was shit. I also hate pop

You are entitled to your opinion but I disagree in principle. Neil Young's a pretty sloppy guitar player, but it just doesn't sound right if someone plays his riffs/solos tight. Bob Dylan has a totally unintelligible voice but it would blow if you could understand everything he's saying. Same goes for lotsa punk/black metal...

I for one find clinical precision boring. Machines can do it way better than people anyways.

I am not advocating slop, but I don't see much merit in quality playing, unless it is of course quality music that is being played. Well made trash is still trash. Hence Friday. Completely manufactured and pointless drivel. That someone put in the effort to craft something so terribly uninspired is in itself quite the pinnacle of idiocy. Like jeez, did they not figure it was shit halfway through the process?
 
I toured with these guys this summer (they were on half of Warped). Aside from the drummer (Adam's buddy, who is a scab), it was just a bunch of Canadian guidos - straight up Jersey Shore fucks, but without the muscles or ability to get laid (no joke, some of them walked around with whiteboards that had "cute girls 18+ come talk to us!" written on them). Every night they would set up tables behind their trailer and play beer pong/flip cup... it was like a fucking frat party every day with those guys.

One of my favorite moments of tour was watching them from side stage in Ohio as I was still tearing down gear when they went on. Singer comes up, and starts his banter...

"yo guys... how the fuck are you doing..."
*looks to stage manager*
"where the FUCK are we?"

"Iowa."

*back into mic*
"...IOWA" <- cue HUGE shiteating grin.


Watch the live videos, its fucking awful. They fist pump constantly and ask that the crowd does the same.

They seem like amusing people. I love those types. Lulzfactory :D
 
You are entitled to your opinion but I disagree in principle. Neil Young's a pretty sloppy guitar player, but it just doesn't sound right if someone plays his riffs/solos tight. Bob Dylan has a totally unintelligible voice but it would blow if you could understand everything he's saying. Same goes for lotsa punk/black metal...

I for one find clinical precision boring. Machines can do it way better than people anyways.

I am not advocating slop, but I don't see much merit in quality playing, unless it is of course quality music that is being played. Well made trash is still trash. Hence Friday. Completely manufactured and pointless drivel. That someone put in the effort to craft something so terribly uninspired is in itself quite the pinnacle of idiocy. Like jeez, did they not figure it was shit halfway through the process?

I feel you. I guess i used the word tight in the wrong context. More in a sense like they have an idea what there doing.

As far as the Friday thing, its just that it was done well for what it is. To be honest there are way worse songs than friday. Ever listen to Waka Flaka? Jesus christ talk about mindless nothingness