old churches and pretty buildings and stuff

[Dead_Lioness]

Derick: you may be right... I've never been to mexico (but will be next year! ) so I don't know for sure.... I'm only following what people from mexico told me... Sometimes I go to REAL mexican places (like the one with the teeth soup, remember?) and I see mexican families order things that are not on the menu! haha I always want to go to their table and ask them what they ordered... I was told by MANY mexicans that 'a burrito, or chips and salsa" is called "border food" and no one really eats it in Mexico... what do I know, I've never been there, but all I know is, I sure love burritos :Spin:

 

[Shpongled]

I think we need to make a Nevermore tribute band out of board members and call it "AlwaysFood".

 

[Dead Winter]

You can get anything anywhere really.

I can make authentic Italian food. Food does vernacularise, but you can get authentic food outside of the native country.

This is true. It may not taste the same, but then again it's not supposed to. Sometimes it may even be better.

 

[dreaming neon darkspot]

i think you guys need to get back to the matter at hand: MY AWESOME PICTURES!!

and graves in that churchyard date back to the 1600's soo... yeah, i think those buildings are legitimately "old"

... christ, WHY are you guys arguing about what's old?

 

[Chromatose]

NO, YER OLD

 

[neal]

i would kill someone...in front of their own grandmother...to get some real Italian gelato. however, american pizza is like 1000x more awesome than italian pizza YEAH I SAID IT AND ITS TRUE

 

[Chromatose]

seriously, a big ol' MEHHHHHHH at eyetalian pizza

 

[Dead_Lioness]

i would kill someone...in front of their own grandmother...to get some real Italian gelato. however, american pizza is like 1000x more awesome than italian pizza YEAH I SAID IT AND ITS TRUE

I agree with you 100%.
The best pizza I've ever had was here in the US, NOT in Italy...
In fact... I'd go as far as to say that those I've had in Italy kinda sucked, even....

 

[neal]

yeh, all the pizza everywhere in europe sucked.

 

[Dead_Lioness]

I agree with you again ,with the exception of several places in Tel Aviv who make AMAZING Pizza.
still however, nothing like in the US.

 

[Tide In Mind Out]

Derick & Samantha - we must go eat some Egyptian pizza from Campisi's!

 

[Chromatose]

ok!

 

[Captain Beard]

Batsards! I must be told how good it was.

 

[Liverslapper]

i know this sounds fucked up but i wanna dig up one of those graves...seriously.

 

[neal]

^dead girls dont say no

 

[Liverslapper]

exactly.

 

[dreaming neon darkspot]

there's this grave there of this steel-mill-company-owner guy back in "the good ol' days" who threw one of his slaves in an oven. he was apparently so evil/awesome that the ground in the first cemetery he was buried in kept rejecting him and his body kept rising to the surface. for some reason, they moved him to that cemetery and put him in one of those concrete-box-in-the-ground things but it'd always develop a deep crack in the surface despite repairs.

the dude's name is Leigh Masters, but when i told the story to will, i called him Leigh Majors

 

[Will Bozarth]

that grave isn't real. it was manufactured in America! HES STILL ALIVE!

 

[Lordlucid]

Usually old buildings in the US really are old because typically they're of the same structure, just with indoor plumbing. Many buildings have been restructured in Europe because obviously 2000 year old castles can't stand on their own after 2k years.

We could go on and on all day about how much older Europe is (duh), and sometimes it garners a snicker when we Americans talk about something that's "old" with Europeans, but I don't think it should be met with bitterness on either side. Granted, Anna's grandmother's house is older than the United States of America, LITERALLY, but ppl don't visit the US for history. It's a very young country and I think that both Europeans and Americans should just get over that fact. Americans shouldn't be so overly sensitive about EVERYTHING and Europeans shouldn't shove every one of the US's shortcomings in Americans' faces. Now that the US is kinda reaping what it has sown, it seems that the European community has been having a few laughs for the past 6 years...but let's not beat a dead horse.

It just reminds me of Italians who travel abroad and only eat Italian food, then bitch about how it's not as good as it is in Italy. Like it's fucking hard to boil water and put tomatoes in a pot and cook them. Yes, they do what they do very well, but it doesn't exactly take a lot of skill to boil pasta, AND they just happen to live in a region that is perfect for growing vegetables. The fact is, they don't know how to use spices, they don't know how to cook meat very well, and they don't know how to do anything besides what they're known for. "He works in lollipops factory and brags about eating lollipops!"...sound familiar?

The US is horrible at culture, horrible at history, and horrible at social issues...but are those things that its known for? Not really. But like Italy, people still come there in droves every year to visit, and why? Because the things they do well, they do VERY well. You can't compare apples to oranges.

Kind of makes me sad that you would say America Is Horrible at Culture. If anything America goes out of its way to respect other peoples cultures, I'll down right say America goes to far to try and not step on peoples toes (well, I can't speak for the president who steps on everyones toes).

You can NOT get real Italian food in America- that's a fact.
same as you can't get REAL Chinese food/ or REAL Mexican....
I laugh at people who think a 'burrito' is a true-mexican food...
ITS NOT.
It's American-Mexican, just like Chinese food in this country is AMERICAN-Chinese and same with Italian....
The food in Italy is really different. One can go to a restaurant in Milan and ask for chicken-alfredo pasta and get something completely different than what he knows from his local Italian joint in Nebraska....
There are so many Italian people in the US who established thir own "cooking" that expecting it to taste like the original dish is absurd.
Even when I go to "REAL DEAL" Israeli restaurants in NYC: they are not the same.... the food tastes different... everything is different.
Chinese food in America is greasy and nasty- in China it's healthy and lean...
so see: nothing here is the "same"
but that's not a bad thing!
culture is something that evolves and adpts to different location... it's quit normal for Italian food in this country to become what it is today, and same with what we call "mexican" .... I think it's great. I just hate it when people are not aware of that, and they think General Tsao is a real dish one can find in Hong Kong, for example...

I beg to differ. People are tought how to cook things differently when they grow up. You're mom could boil Pasta and use salt and oil... My mother would just use Boiling water with out all that. Food differed from place to place originally because of what Ingredients they had around them. Northern Italy Might make Fettuccine alfredo(bad example, not a very old dish) and add things like chicken, where southern Italy might add shrimp. Just because of the area. Now days if stuff like that differs its because thats the way the chef wants to prepare it, they want to be different and not have the same old boring stuff they grew up with. Maybe keeping their favorite dish the same simply because it was their favorite.
I don't get where you think you can't get "REAL" Ethnic food in America. Even stating it as a fact. Just by saying that you're insulting all the traditional Italian, Chinese...etc. Chefs in America who try hard and keep the same food that they've grown up with out on your plate, so they can share their traditions.

 

[Dead Winter]

I have to be honest...the pizza where I live is good, but not OMG THIS IS THE BEST THING I'VE EVER EATEN! I have to say that I've eaten better pizza in the US than around here.

I've never been to Naples, which they say is the best in the world, but until I go there I can't say. I have been to Rome, however, and it does in fact own American-style pizza. It's not necessarily that they put fairy dust in their pizza or anything, the ingredients there are just better and it really has nothing to do with their way of cooking it.

Italians tend to brag about how great they are at this stuff, but it's just ingredients. It would be like Americans bragging about how much stronger our military is than, say, Lithuania's. Duh...they're two completely different things.

Italians cook very well, but they're just one-trick ponies. IMO, you eat better in my home state of Louisiana than here.