omg Dimebag Darrel

lurch is right. pantera was and is american white trash metal. i had to wait until around '98 to listen to them because i had made fun of the hoods in high school with their pantera shirts. i didnt want to come across as inconsistent, you know.
 
What the fuck? Yeah Pantera was loved by the mullet-inclined, but they were a good fucking band.
 
Cowboys From Hell was great, but after that they kinda lost me. Became more about seeing how much they could cuss and less about making killer riffage. But Death is easily better, no contest.

Lump me in with Zod. Slayer = overrated. Still, Seasons in the Abyss kicked all sorts of ass, so not totally without merit. I guess it just saddens me that they got huge and the better bay area bands like Forbidden and Testament didn't.
 
That's funny, I find Testament bigger than they deserve to be. Some good moments, but still...
 
I watched the Pantera Behind the Music thing on VH1 today, it was okay.

Pantera are probably responsible for all the shit Red State Rock acts on the radiowaves today, but I don't care. They had the talent to back up their beer-fueled aggro-schtick, which sets them apart from their poseur pupils. While I don't listen to them more than a handful of times every year, they were an incredible band for a good period. Far Beyond Driven remains one of my favorite albums of all time.
 
Well, it goes back to the same old argument, the simple fact is, Testament and Slayer (especially) where there first. Now of course that doesn't change the fact that people might like post 90's stuff like Pantera more, but it will always go back to the original sound being more unique when it came out, less saturated, and sounding just a fuckload more genuine.

By the way, librariusmetallicus mentions the following:

While the music got heavier, the lyrics got worse, relying too heavily on cussing for shock value. Of course, this only increased their popularity. At the peak of their career, they were one of the most popular metal bands in the world

Gotta ask, did anyone outside of the US even know who Pantera was, even as late as 96?
 
They were pretty big in Russia and parts of Asia I do believe. I can completely understand why Europe wouldn't care, they were a very American group. It's like ZZ Top meets Budweiser.

Also I've never thought to compare Slayer and Pantera, other than saying they both share a similar level of asskickery. Saw them share the stage during Pantera's last tour, Pantera were actually better. :kickass:
 
All joking aside, I think what Europeans hate the most about the USA is all the red necks so Pantera were always going to have that uphill battle.

Bear in mind what impression the US gives off and it all makes sense. Think Bush as president and the Beverly Hillbillies, sprinkle in some Jerry Springer...the last thing you're gonna do is buy a Pantera album. :loco:
 
oh and Superjoint Ritual took the hillbilly metal to whole new level ... just fucking krap
 
lurch70 said:
oh and Superjoint Ritual took the hillbilly metal to whole new level ... just fucking krap
Awful, awful band. Saw them live even, thought that might convince me they were worth something. Nope. DUN DUN DUN DUN *SKREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE* repeat x4724908
 
I'm still sorta curious about their second album, but the first one... ugh. I wanted to like it, gave it many shots, then realized Use Once and Destroy was the most fitting album title I've ever come across. :dopey: