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derek
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IronGuillotine
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Mike said:
You should. The system IS capable of surround sound & broadband/online play. As far as hard drives are concerned, who the fuck cares unless you're in to stealing games? The Wii has plenty of high speed/stable memmory in both RAM and ROM. If you need more, you're probably doing something illegal. ...plus, the memory is upgradable.
Graphics and sound aren't everything anyway... Nintendo has always been more innovative and creative in the game design department as well as system developement. That revolutionary innovation will carry over into the Wii. And don't even try to say that Microsoft is innovative...again. Give me a break! What new idea have they EVER brought to the gaming world? Name just ONE. The closest I can even think of is HD, which wasn't even their idea, let alone a new one. I can name at least 20 brand new ideas from Nintendo right off the top of my head.
The new Playstation is going to be the buggiest one yet, which is a fucking shame! As if the last ones weren't buggy enough? Sony needs to spend some time perfecting their system instead of trying to steal it's competitor's ideas and rushing them through production. They're going to shoot themselves in the foot and people are going to realize how poor the system actually is, and how little the care about putting out a quality system.
The Microsoft system looks impressive, don't get me wrong. I'm excited about it's release as well. ...but Microsoft pales in comparision to Nintendo in the game developement department. When is the last time you played a game made my Microsoft that was actually fun? ...Fable? Hahahaha...ya right! How can a company with very poor understanding of what it takes to develope killer games create a good platform for those game to be on? It's simple...you can't. Microsoft is going to have to rely on the creativity of 3rd party developers to save their system...again.
Why is it that so many people today STILL play origninal Nintendo games & SNES games over 15 years later? Sure the graphics and sound are crap compared to today's systems...but the bottom line is the games are FUN. Yes, FUNNER than most of today's game. It's a joke. If we want to really push the envelope and make games that beat the test of time, then the system developers need to get a clue and make gameplay possibilities their primary focus. Yes, graphics and sound are nice, but if you put your sole focus on that, then you are setting yourself up for failure.
IronGuillotine
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IronGuillotine said:
Do you even own an xbox? have you even seen what you can do with the 360's hard drive?
IronGuillotine said:
True, but to me, all the hitman games are virtually the same, but i'd rather be playing Blood Money over Codename 47 only because it looks prettier.
IronGuillotine said:
the 360 is REALLY innovative, if you dissagree, then you are wrong. The ability to just download demos to your hard drive and test shit out on the fly is amazing, XBL is great, even the marketplace is a great idea. Keep in mind this is only their second console, much more to come for the future, MS doesnt have 15 years under their belt in the consoles like Nintendo... and yet MS is embaressing them with their ability to come in new and crush their consoles.
IronGuillotine said:
Thats just fucking stupid, they make an awesome console, people make awesome games for it, it doesnt matter what MS knows about making games, all they do is say "here you go, this is the fastest console ever made, develope some cool shit for it" its really simple.
IronGuillotine said:
How many other systems were around 20 years ago? there are just as many fans out there today for the atari, the imagination station, the genesis as the nes and snes... nintendo just likes to keep marketing it and selling it.
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Wow! the Wii is gonna kick everyones ass for once! Nintendo has been back burner for years and it looks like a comeback is gonna be made!
(compatibility with the DS is gonna win hard...)
(compatibility with the DS is gonna win hard...)
IronGuillotine
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Mike said:no need to insult my tastes in order to state your own
I never did. Everyone's opinions are important, including yours. It's not my fault you are offended when people do not agree with you.
Mike said:
I sold mine because the games were not fun to me and I needed the money.
See that's my point. The games are WAY too similar. If you come up with new types of gameplay, then you'll get need types of games.
I'm not wrong. It's a matter of perspective. I'm talking about gameplay here, but obviously that matters very little to you. What has Microsoft brought to GAMEPLAY? ....ever? Not even on computer. All Microsoft ever does is sit back and wait for someone to have a good idea and then try to exploit it. They didn't invent HD, they didn't invent surround sound, and they have never, ever, invented a new type of control system.
That is a cool feature, but it is NOT innovative. People have been able to download shareware for years on the PC. That's a gaming platform too in case you forgot.
Innovative: being or producing something like nothing done or experienced or created before
They're not imbarassing anyone, and they didn't crush anyone either. Nintendo and Sony beat out Microsoft in almost every other country other than America. Go look up the numbers if you don't believe me. ...and Microsoft was making games long before the first XBox.
You obviously know absolutely know very little about game design and architecture. Give painter a whitest canvass available and the best paintbrush available...then give the same guy a new type of canvass and some new types of paints...see which one creates something new & exciting. If you want to create a good console than will allow game developers to do something new, then you have to give them new tools to work with. An artist can only be as good as his resources enable him to be.
Again, your missing my point completely. Actually...you're making my point. Why are the games from 10 years ago still so popular, but games from 2 years ago aren't even played? The focus was on gameplay, plain and simple.
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Mike said:
Let's not get upset. Breathe, Mike, breathe. Now look. Let me just stress that when I talk about people bragging on the Wii controller, I'm talking about those that went to the conference that had never played the Wii before. Now, yes, this all has already been addressed by IronGuillotine, but I would like to do it in a different manner. Now, as he said, surround sound and online features are available for the Wii. People will be downloading content for their DS, and beyond that, people will be downloading a large back catalogue for NES, SNES, Nintendo 64, Genesis, and TurboGrafx-16. But both Microsoft and Sony want to do something entirely different than what Nintendo is doing. They have their eyes set on pretty much making it compatible with every electronic device in your life...well, basically, they are making PCs. When you're able to be paid for playing Halo and poop in the system, then you'll never have to leave your XBox. It's not a terrible goal, really, but it's completely different from Nintendo's goal. Nintendo's draw is still solely games, whereas the 360 can be a center in your home for ALL of your entertainment needs.
You told me that the games i enjoy playing were boring as hell, it wasnt like you stated "im not into those kinda games" or something pleasnt, so fuck off.IronGuillotine said:
Incase you didnt notice, but most games out there today are multiplatformed, and there are tones of games for the xbox spanning across all genres, if theres nothing that you like on the xbox... then what the fuck do you actually play? I can GUARENTEE there are games for you on there.IronGuillotine said:
WTF? are you retarted? i used one example, all the hitman games are the same.. but theres no other game out there like it except maybe Tenchu, all the mario games are the same, but i enjoy playing the one on SNES better than NES, im sure all the new capabilities that the SNES brought to it made it more enjoyable for me... just like the new capabilities of games that are now on the next gen consoles. In other words, prettier, faster, more intensive with graphics, physics, sound, and overall GAMEPLAY.IronGuillotine said:
Then your really missing the point, im saying XBOX rules and your saying Microsoft doesnt make games, 2 different subject matters compltetly, i didnt say they invented HD moron, but they are the first ones to bring HD to the motherfucking consoleIronGuillotine said:
I like how you say never ever invented a new type on control system, i have no idea what your trying to say here.. new console? new controller? is this some way of boasting about the wii's controller? yeah, because remote controls havent been around for decades.hey dumb ass, incase you didnt realize, this thread, and everything we've been talking about has been about consoles, kthnx.IronGuillotine said:
sure online consoles started with the Dreamcast, but there is just so much more now with the 360 and XBL without even touching the Live Anywhere concept that they came up with.embarrassing starts with an e. again, consoles bro, CONSOLES, not games, not pc games, nothing else. MS is the new commer, and IMO they are better in every way imaginable than Nintendo, all Nintendo has now is their loyal fans and creativity. Its not like any of these companies are going to force the other one out of business, but I just feel as if MS is the stronger company, even in the console world.IronGuillotine said:
come again? hmm, i see what you did there with the painters... well, if i cant paint for shit, and i have new and innovative stuff, does that mean that i can come up with something more beautiful than Rembrant? odds are... NO FUCKING WAY. MS is just creating a platform for the developers to work on, and in comparison to the other platforms, MS's is much better.IronGuillotine said:
Its also a fad. kids these days. I cant dissagree with you here, but when you dont have all the shiny graphics and physics to work with, all you have left is gameplay. But now if MS bought the lisenceing for the Nintendo games to go on the 360 and they decided to make their own stupid ass controller, would you sudenly hail the 360? no you wouldnt, because your just another nintendo fanboyIronGuillotine said:
look, we seem to be on 2 different plains here. so how about you just leave it at that, trust me, your cant convince me with ANYTHING you have to say.
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Oh, and I also just wanted to say that the Wii controller isn't completely new. However, what they are doing with it is new. They are making it the primary controller. That's what makes it innovative. So using that as a point against XBox having nothing innovative about it is a weak argument.
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