one thing that pains me...

[E V I L]

it's injustice, the crowds who operate by values and sensibilities that neglect sanity, the trends that favor the idiocies of the world, the appalling bandwagons which will value mediocrity and rejoice in it, it's a misanthropic conflict at the heart of which is a metaphysical struggle, a fight to keep sane, to keep convictions and a faith about something, when the world doesn't let you....

just a thought about something...

 

[Misanthrope]

Injustice is so common around me and im so used to have the most extremely low expectations about people and life that injustice does not bothers me nor it surprises me anymore.

 

[E V I L]

re Misanthrope:

Above and beyond the first tier is a mild depression. I know and expect injustice. But it comes in all forms especially from places you would least expect it, from people whom you might most respect. It's this condition of self-conflict and self-negation, between liking a people, trusting in them, and questioning your own Reason, that makes it painful, if only for a while..

 

[E V I L]

and btw, I already detect gross inconsistencies in your post. If nothing surprises you anymore it should be strange that you lash out at people as you do. "Surprise" is a precondition of hatred, misanthropy. Without it you'd be merely indifferent, apathetic, and not mis or anti this or that..

just another thought...

 

[Misanthrope]

A precondition? i dont get it things have to surprise me so i can hate them? why do you asume i have to act in a certain fashion else im inconsistent? Maybe it surprises me ( i doubt it because i dont think there is surprise before all hate ) but maybe just maybe you just dont have all my personality figured out?

 

[E V I L]

Your last clause reveals your insecurity. I have all of you figured out.

The label "inconsistent" is an observation about actions apropos prior statements of being. You can't say "i'm used to" something and then act like you're not (in that you lash out anything that might offend) as if you've never dealt with it before; you can't say something doesn't "bother" you anymore and then become vexed so visibly as you do. I told you, it's about preconditions. Think about it.

 

[E V I L]

Do you know what the ultimate state of Nihilism is? of Misanthropy? It's silence, its resignationism, the will to be nothing more than a stale, conscious plant-- it's the acceptance of everything that is everything and nothing....it's determination to do everything that is nothing short of suicide. That is the mature form of Nihilism. I've only seen children thus far.

 

[Misanthrope]

You might have a point. If i did not see it its because i have always been like this, so i guess i that maybe what does not bothers me is the fact that i know my reactions, yet it still surprises me. I say this because i just thought of some examples when i was surprised, with people i loved and came to the realization tha i was used for their personal needs, and i was surprised at their injustice towards me, yet i was not surprised at my reaction towards them.

And if you think you have us all figured out you havent figured out a damn thing, i know enough to know i dont really know anything about anyone cause i know only a tiny part of their life in the forum, i do not really know anyone here how could i make a judgement? im aware i have done judgements before just like you do but i do them based merely on the internet personality of the persons, i could never claim i really know a person if i only talk to him on the net.

 

[E V I L]

Originally posted by Misanthrope


And if you think you have us all figured out you havent figured out a damn thing, i know enough to know i dont really know anything about anyone cause i know only a tiny part of their life in the forum, i do not really know anyone here how could i make a judgement? im aware i have done judgements before just like you do but i do them based merely on the internet personality of the persons, i could never claim i really know a person if i only talk to him on the net.

judgements about particular things can be made so long as the judgements themselves pretend to be particular.

Pardon my other statement. It was there to incite you.

 

[Misanthrope]

Other than a person in coma i do not believe there could be such a thing as nihilism, and i do not claim to be one i just agree with some points of it but im far from being nihilst, or far from wishing nihilsm in a realistic ways, if ever wish it is but a dream denied and i dont bother with it. Some things about nihilism make sense to me but i would never claim to be one, nor do i think its possible or realistic to expect it, so i dont bother with mental anguish thinking about it anymore.

 

[Misanthrope]

Pardon my other statement. It was there to incite you.

Thats ok it kinda looked like that but for some odd reason im not in the get all acelerated and angry mood right now so no harm is done.

 

[Sadistik]

well, once you expect injustice (however you mean that, given varying situations), then misanthropia is the resulting tendency towards feeling. I know this as I am a somewhat misanthropic individual (though I try to keep myself from becoming totally disillusioned.

 

[Armageddon's Child]

Originally posted by E V I L
it's injustice, the crowds who operate by values and sensibilities that neglect sanity, the trends that favor the idiocies of the world, the appalling bandwagons which will value mediocrity and rejoice in it, it's a misanthropic conflict at the heart of which is a metaphysical struggle, a fight to keep sane, to keep convictions and a faith about something, when the world doesn't let you....

just a thought about something...

In a world where natural selection is the ultimate reality, there is no room for justice. The truly sane don't lament the "appalling bandwagons" and "mediocrity" of the world; they rejoice in them. The fools clamor for mediocrity, they revel in it, they suffocate in it. They drive themselves ever onward toward extinction, reducing the competition for the truly excellent. Seeking "justice" is a waste of effort. It cannot be eliminated so long as the majority of humanity continues to consist of mental defectives. Instead, the excellent should find ways to profit from injustice, to turn it to their advantage. Injustice can be eliminated at leisure once the world has been emptied of fools, to attempt to do away with it under the present circumstances is futile.

 

[Wolff]

Originally posted by Armageddon's Child


In a world where natural selection is the ultimate reality, there is no room for justice. The truly sane don't lament the "appalling bandwagons" and "mediocrity" of the world; they rejoice in them. The fools clamor for mediocrity, they revel in it, they suffocate in it. They drive themselves ever onward toward extinction, reducing the competition for the truly excellent. Seeking "justice" is a waste of effort. It cannot be eliminated so long as the majority of humanity continues to consist of mental defectives. Instead, the excellent should find ways to profit from injustice, to turn it to their advantage. Injustice can be eliminated at leisure once the world has been emptied of fools, to attempt to do away with it under the present circumstances is futile.

AC how old are you really?

Let's take a look at your argument:

-The sane don't lament the "appalling bandwagons" and "mediocrity" of the world; they rejoice in them.
-The fools clamor for mediocrity, they revel in it...
(So you're basically saying that humans, i.e. the sane and the fools, revel/rejoice in... mediocrity.)

Then,
-Seeking "justice" is a waste of effort. (Not sure where this follows from, unless you equate injustice with mediocrity)

-It cannot be eliminated (what? "justice"? ) so long as the majority of humanity continues to consist of mental defectives. (But you just said that all the humans, mental defectives and the sane revel/rejoice in mediocrity)

On we go,
-Instead, the excellent should find ways to profit from injustice, to turn it to their advantage. Injustice can be eliminated at leisure once the world has been emptied of fools, to attempt to do away with it under the present circumstances is futile. (How exactly is the earth going to be emptied of the fools? Do you have any stats/trends that support this assumption. If indeed it happens, is it going to be a linear, logarythmic, asymptotic function in regards to time? If the sane find ways to profit from injustice, why would they be inclined towards a just system? etc, etc.)

So here's another question: what makes you think that excellence is absolute? For once everybody becomes excellent (=world has been emptied of fools)... doesn't that same quality become ordinary?

I've told you before, you've got mad wanker potential

Keep editing little boy.

 

[Armageddon's Child]

Originally posted by Wolff


Let's take a look at your argument:

-The sane don't lament the "appalling bandwagons" and "mediocrity" of the world; they rejoice in them.
-The fools clamor for mediocrity, they revel in it...
(So you're basically saying that humans, i.e. the sane and the fools, revel/rejoice in... mediocrity.)

The point is that the sane don't worry about what others are doing, they simply use it to their advantage. They use the "bandwagons" and "mediocrity" of the world to create opportunities for themselves.

Originally posted by Wolff
Then,
-Seeking "justice" is a waste of effort. (Not sure where this follows from, unless you equate injustice with mediocrity)

E V I L made that connection, beginning by declaring "injustice" as the his target and then describing it as the result of "appalling bandwagons" and "mediocrity." He sees these as signs of injustice.

Originally posted by Wolff
-It cannot be eliminated (what? "justice"? )

You know full well I speak of injustice.

Originally posted by Wolff
so long as the majority of humanity continues to consist of mental defectives. (But you just said that all the humans, mental defectives and the sane revel/rejoice in mediocrity)

I said that the sane rejoice in the opportunities the mediocrity of the masses. The masses revel in mediocrity because they believe it to be excellence, the sane rejoice in the mediocrity of the masses because it results in opportunities and decreased competition for the truly excellent.

Originally posted by Wolff
How exactly is the earth going to be emptied of the fools? Do you have any stats/trends that support this assumption. If indeed it happens, is it going to be a linear, logarythmic, asymptotic function in regards to time?

Natural selection ensures that those less fit for survival will eventually become extinct. Mediocrity is ultimately an evolutionary liability.

Originally posted by Wolff
If the sane find ways to profit from injustice, why would they be inclined towards a just system? etc, etc.

Injustice is a product of stupidity, it occurs because too many are too stupid to do otherwise. If trends in human evolution continue, the species will eventually be too intelligent for injustice to occur.

Originally posted by Wolff
So here's another question: what makes you think that excellence is absolute? For once everybody becomes excellent (=world has been emptied of fools)... doesn't that same quality become ordinary?

It is of course relative to some degree, but there is an absolute threshhold of stupidity necessary to maintain injustice, once the level of stupidity among the populace drops below that threshhold, injustice becomes impossible to continue. We see this demonstrated over and over again. Societies where the functional intelligence of the populace is greater (the West) have much lower levels of injustice than those societies where the functional intelligence is lower (the rest of the world).

 

[Armageddon's Child]

Of course, it's always possible that my "opinions" are just flamebait...

 

[Wolff]

Your opinions are plain stupid. I gave you the benefit of the doubt once. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

Later kiddo.

 

[E V I L]

Ok final thought. Lest I be accused of platitudinous whining, I know that there are greater afflictions in the world. I know two people personally who will probably be dead of cancer before the next year ends, one of whom has plans to get married early next year. Very sad but very true.

A political conscience is petty in the grand scheme of things, but it is a thing, though a thing that gets pettier as I write this. I get my strokes of misanthropia but I'm not a misanthrope. I actually enjoy the challenge and the faith I invest in people and my future. I just hate it when nonsense infiltrates so close to home. I also consider misanthropes (i.e. the passive kind) idiots too.

btw, Wolff, I'm too tired to deal with it, but I had a mind to deconstruct AC's post also.