Opeth is too good

I downloaded all the songs from Natural Born Chaos, that album kicks ass. I can't wait till it comes out. But more then likely, I will never be able to find it here. I can never find anything good here.
 
for quite some time Opeth was the only band that I would listen to, but now I have been also listening to...

Anathema
My Dying Bride
Chris Cornell
A compilation cd which includes ~ Katatonia, Old Man's Child, Borknagar, Opeth, etc.
 
This thread is reeeeeealy sad. Exactly what Ledmag has been going on about for so long. :rolleyes:

I hardly even listen to opeth.


np - Days of the new III.
 
Originally posted by Trapped
This thread is reeeeeealy sad. Exactly what Ledmag has been going on about for so long. :rolleyes:

I hardly even listen to opeth.
Yep, since you dont love opeth then everyone else shouldnt either eh?

Seriously, you are attacking someone because they found a band that they love? just because you dont happen to love that band?

I went through a stage when i first heard Opeth, and i couldnt listen to anything else.... nothing was as good. Now by good im not talking about technicalities, sure id heard bands play guitar 100x better and whatever, but nobody had ever written music that affected me in such a way that Opeth did. Are you claiming that technicalities are more important than the emotions/imagery/whatever that a piece of music creates? Now you can go ahead and argue about your technical masterful bands but if i listen to them a few times and get nothing from them then why should i listen to them?

From a listening point of view the ONLY thing music should be judged on is its effect on the listener, technicalities can help with this, but they can also hinder. Are you suggesting people should listen to technically better bands even if they dont do anything for them?

But of course people call musicians "good" or "gods" based on whether they like the music or not... the phrase "Opeth are the best band in the world" doesnt mean the person thinks opeth are the best band in the world, it means Opeth are the best band in the world for THEM. If you're arguing against these types of comments then you are simply arguing against how people use the same words to describe technical ability as they do to describe their subjective opinion of the music. Which is understandable since any band should have enough technical ability to accurately produce music that they and their listeners get something (..get what was intended by the artist) from, so its easy for people to merge these things together.


Now i still love opeth but i no longer listen to them much at all, i've barely listened to them in the past 6 months id say... but that means shit, coz although Opeth no longer have as much effect on me as they used to, NO OTHER BAND has produced the emotions and feelings in me that Opeth did in those first few months of listening, no band had before either. And you can read the replies in this thread that show that these people get addicted to Opeth and listen to Opeth ONLY FOR THE PERIOD IN WHICH OPETH HAVE AN EFFECT ON THEM.... as soon as the effect wears of they discover other bands and move on. So what exactly is your point? That anyone who finds a band that they love should ask you to see if they are allowed to listen to them? .... that anyone who finds a band they love should listen to heaps of other bands even if they dont get as much from them?

Its just an Opeth phase, most people get over it with a year or so... so just let them be, they are enjoying music and gaining a lot from it so why the fuck are you arguing against them? Isnt that what music is about?

Oh, and the fact that so many people go through this Opeth stage should tell you something about the effect Opeth's music can have on people (even if it doesnt fully have this effect on you, which is of course fine). Remember, most of these people going through this phase do so BEFORE they meet any other Opeth fan...before they hear about anyone else going through an Opeth phase.... so its not like they are following a trend or anything, it is purely the music which causes this to happen... i dont see how you can argue against it.


(hehe, that was fun)
 
Yep, since you dont love opeth then everyone else shouldnt either eh?

...and since you and him LOVE opeth, that means that myself and ledmag both have to love and respect them like you do?

Think of it that way.

It is really stupid of this dude to say 'oooooh, i dont listen to anything else but opeth', that just proves what myself is saying.

Are you claiming that technicalities are more important than the emotions/imagery/whatever that a piece of music creates? Now you can go ahead and argue about your technical masterful bands but if i listen to them a few times and get nothing from them then why should i listen to them?

Tell me, where exactly in my post did i say that opeth should be more technical? I like opeth, i just don't suck their cock like alot of ppl here do.

I don't really listen to much technical music, if that's what you are saying. My favourite bands at the moment areDays Of The New, and The Tea Party... two of the LEAST technical bands that i have in my collection? What was your point? I get so fucking angry when ppl should blue murder at me and assume that 'It has to be technical to be good'... for gods sake, i listen to Dead Can Dance, beacuse i love the atmosphere they creat.

FUCK. FUCK FUCK that pisses me off

So what exactly is your point? That anyone who finds a band that they love should ask you to see if they are allowed to listen to them?

ANOTHER thing that pisses me off. Where in my post did i say that Opeth suck, or that i do not love opeth? I was simply stating the fact that if you listen ONLY to opeth, you are a dipshit. There is alot of different music out there (yes, there IS other bands out there that produce BETTER emotions that opeth does) to be listened to, and these people are passing up that opportunity. You are making assumptions befind the reasoning of my post! Not smart!

How sad.
 
Trapped, you just proved Yayogakk's point for him, saying other bands produce better emotions then Opeth. How do you know what produces what emotions in what people? You don't. It maybe true that Opeth don't produce an emotional reaction for you but what abouot other people. I agree one shouldn't limit themselves to a single band but you are always going to listen your favorites over other things. I no, just because other people love Opeth doesn't mean you have to, they weren't asking to. They were just stating thier oppinion.
 
Originally posted by Trapped


...and since you and him LOVE opeth, that means that myself and ledmag both have to love and respect them like you do?

Think of it that way.

It is really stupid of this dude to say 'oooooh, i dont listen to anything else but opeth', that just proves what myself is saying.



Tell me, where exactly in my post did i say that opeth should be more technical? I like opeth, i just don't suck their cock like alot of ppl here do.

I don't really listen to much technical music, if that's what you are saying. My favourite bands at the moment areDays Of The New, and The Tea Party... two of the LEAST technical bands that i have in my collection? What was your point? I get so fucking angry when ppl should blue murder at me and assume that 'It has to be technical to be good'... for gods sake, i listen to Dead Can Dance, beacuse i love the atmosphere they creat.

FUCK. FUCK FUCK that pisses me off



ANOTHER thing that pisses me off. Where in my post did i say that Opeth suck, or that i do not love opeth? I was simply stating the fact that if you listen ONLY to opeth, you are a dipshit. There is alot of different music out there (yes, there IS other bands out there that produce BETTER emotions that opeth does) to be listened to, and these people are passing up that opportunity. You are making assumptions befind the reasoning of my post! Not smart!

How sad.

Chill out, man...I don't really give a flying fuck about how diverse your musical tastes or mine are. If I want to listen to Opeth every time I listen to music (which isn't the case), it's my business. Yes, I am open to plenty of other music, I just haven't been exposed to much of it yet.
 
Originally posted by Trapped


...and since you and him LOVE opeth, that means that myself and ledmag both have to love and respect them like you do?

Think of it that way.

It is really stupid of this dude to say 'oooooh, i dont listen to anything else but opeth', that just proves what myself is saying.
But tell me where in the original post did this guy tell you you should love Opeth? I believe all he said was that he loves Opeth, and you call him sad for that. I believe he said he currently can listen to only Opeth... which to me means that of all the other music he's listened to nothing has an effect on him like Opeth does... that he doesnt get anything from other bands at the moment. Are you claiming he should listen to these other bands even though he's not getting anything from them? I doubt you would be saying that. He's just going through an Opeth phase, if he only ever listens to Opeth for the rest of his life then he has a problem, but if for the next 6 months he finds that Opeth is the only thing that has an effect on him then thats what he should listen to isnt it? Why is he sad for listening to the ONLY band which currently has an effect on him? Nowhere does he say he's stopped searching for better music, heck most Opeth fans i knwo of are continually searching for music which has as big an affect on them.. but a lot dont find it.

Tell me, where exactly in my post did i say that opeth should be more technical? I like opeth, i just don't suck their cock like alot of ppl here do.

I don't really listen to much technical music, if that's what you are saying. My favourite bands at the moment areDays Of The New, and The Tea Party... two of the LEAST technical bands that i have in my collection? What was your point? I get so fucking angry when ppl should blue murder at me and assume that 'It has to be technical to be good'... for gods sake, i listen to Dead Can Dance, beacuse i love the atmosphere they creat.

FUCK. FUCK FUCK that pisses me off
Dont worry, i was trying to prove a point to you that i knew you already knew. Liking and loving music is a subjective thing... you are the one who continually bashes people for LOVING Opeth. You always appear to be saying that we are allowed to like Opeth, but not allowed to love them.


There is alot of different music out there (yes, there IS other bands out there that produce BETTER emotions that opeth does) to be listened to, and these people are passing up that opportunity.
"produce BETTER emotions"? This is where you are going wrong.. producing emotions in the listener is a subjective thing for the listener. From all the bands NovemberFrost has listened to its quite obvious that at the moment Opeth are the best at producing emotions in him. Currently he is satisfied and happy, why the need to search for other stuff if currently he has everything he wants? Once opeth looses its effect on him im sure he'll go and find new bands, actually im sure he probably still searches for other bands now, and considers putting other music on, but then doesnt find anything he wants to listen to so he turns back to Opeth.


Just to point something out i dont consider Opeth gods at all, they do some things well, other things they do poorly, some of their good techniques are spoilt by bad habits or lack of knowledge. And currently, like i said, they arent the band that has the most effect on me. I know there are bands out there who do stuff better, but the fact is that during my Opeth phase nothing had as big an effect on me, i was looking for other music and i was giving it time and it affected me and had its uses but 90% of the tiem i was listening to Opeth. I dont see how that is so sad?




My problem is how you attack a person for having a favourite band. How you assume that because Opeth are there favourite band then that means they havent tried to listen to other music. How you assume that they are narrow minded and sad purely because at the moment the only thing which has an effect on them is Opeth.