Opeth's Orchid is 12 years old

[Necromunchkin]

This thread induced a bit of a time warp in my brain. I was thinking, there is no freaking way the album is that old... then it occured to me I bought it and Emperor "In The Nightside Ecplipse" through the same mail order... in 1996. Damn.

 

[MFJ]

Ohh, and as for my take on Opeth- first three were great. Still life was okay. BWP bored me. Deliverance and Ghost Reveries bored me even more. Damnation was excellent though, but Im probably in the minority on this one.

nah Damnation is a pretty cool album

 

[Crimson Velvet]

I like the first four and Damnation...

 

[JayKeeley]

I have a feeling "Orchid" would do well in a best 90's debut tournament. Where the favoUrite "Pale Folklore" was pretty much an extension of "Bergtatt", "Orchid" on the other hand came out of nowhere and grabbed you by the gonads.

I don't know why I used so many "" but once I "started" I found it difficult to "finish".

 

[Dark One]

Just a quick side note on Orchid - "The Twilight is my Robe" is the standout track on the album for me. I definitely love the album as a whole ("In Mist She Was Standing" and "Under the Weeping Moon" are excellent as well), the the first track I mentioned is godly. Emphasize it if you haven't previously since it's toward the end of the album.

Jason

 

[dill_the_devil]

So, I'm gonna be the odd one out here, since I actually did get into Opeth via Blackwater Park, 'The Drapery Falls' is my favourite Opeth song, I like the last three records, and I don't own Morningrise (I actually did buy it a few years ago, but then I went to the pub, got drunk, accidentally left it behind and never saw it again).

Nevertheless though, Orchid is probably the Opeth album I listen to the most, the dual guitar-centric writing on that album knocks me out. Every now and again I try to learn how to play songs from that album, but usually give up after half an hour of forgetting which guitar line I'm actually following.

 

[MFJ]

So, I'm gonna be the odd one out here, since I actually did get into Opeth via Blackwater Park, 'The Drapery Falls' is my favourite Opeth song, I like the last three records, and I don't own Morningrise (I actually did buy it a few years ago, but then I went to the pub, got drunk, accidentally left it behind and never saw it again).

Nevertheless though, Orchid is probably the Opeth album I listen to the most, the dual guitar-centric writing on that album knocks me out. Every now and again I try to learn how to play songs from that album, but usually give up after half an hour of forgetting which guitar line I'm actually following.

yeah, even though I haven't heard the album in literally about two years (besides some of the songs live), BWP was actually the first metal album that I worshiped right when I got into this stuff. I'll never forget the first time I heard it, it was fucking scary! my friend gave me a copy of the album right when it was released along with a copy of The Jester Race and the rest is history.

(and clearly TJR is eternally better still)

 

[JayKeeley]

Well, there definitely is a case to be made for Opeth being complete and utter wankers. If we're all being perfectly honest, it's hard to deny that Opeth, at times, wank for the sake of wanking. There are times when you listen to an Opeth song and you're depserately waiting for them to make a "clutch" riff, something to hang on to, but what you get instead is a bunch of meandering and orchestrated shoegazing.

Take "Tales of a Thousand Lakes" by Amorphis as a good example of how to do things right, and that motherfucker is FOURTEEN years old. Surely one of the greatest albums to emerge from the 90's!!!!!!!!!!

 

[MFJ]

Well, there definitely is a case to be made for Opeth being complete and utter wankers. If we're all being perfectly honest, it's hard to deny that Opeth, at times, wank for the sake of wanking. There are times when you listen to an Opeth song and you're depserately waiting for them to make a "clutch" riff, something to hang on to, but what you get instead is a bunch of meandering and orchestrated shoegazing.

Take "Tales of a Thousand Lakes" by Amorphis as a good example of how to do things right, and that motherfucker is FOURTEEN years old. Surely one of the greatest albums to emerge from the 90's!!!!!!!!!!

hahahhahaha you're so right. so many songs on still life have like crazy single-note sweeps coming in and out out of the stereo on both sides while there's tons of other crap going on at the same time. there's like 5 or 6 guitars going at once sometimes. i mean, In Flames did that on TJR but at least it was for those sexually harmonic riffs.

oh yeah, and Tales from the Thousand Lakes is badass

 

[JayKeeley]

Eucharist's "Velvet Creation" too

 

[cthulufhtagn]

The descriptions of the 2 occasions are totally different. Read again.



Somewhere else entirely? Where is that? You are saying that they expand these "old bits and pieces" ? They just make them sound far more simplistic, shallow and so incredibly less genuine.

this coming from a porcupine tree fan :Smug:

let's agree to disagree before this argument degenerates any further, considering i respect your opinion most of the time

 

[JayKeeley]

When listening to "In Mist She Was Standing", everyone should immediately follow it up with Maiden's "Genghis Khan" and see where some of the inspiration came from in the main intro riff/section albeit slowed down by Opeth.

Also, has anyone listened to this album stoned out of their head? I'm just wondering how "Under the Weeping Moon" sounds while under the influence, particularly the whole improvised section.

 

[Demilich]

Yeah I did that a few times recently... it all sounds amazingly good!

edit: keeping in mind that I used to be a huge fanboy but then didnt listen to them for 2 or 3 years

 

[MFJ]

Also, has anyone listened to this album stoned out of their head? I'm just wondering how "Under the Weeping Moon" sounds while under the influence, particularly the whole improvised section.

I do it all of the time, and I'll just say that there's a lot you might pick up only through the powerful lense that is marijuana.

 

[cthulufhtagn]

Also, has anyone listened to this album stoned out of their head?

hahahahahaha. no, never

 

[Alwin]

I'm still waiting for The Powers That Be to discover that In the Woods... was one of the great bands in history, and they even died a proper quick death that would enable such a discovery.

Neil

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[JayKeeley]

Yeah I did that a few times recently... it all sounds amazingly good!

edit: keeping in mind that I used to be a huge fanboy but then didnt listen to them for 2 or 3 years

I do it all of the time, and I'll just say that there's a lot you might pick up only through the powerful lense that is marijuana.

hahahahahaha. no, never

Cool.

What about HEart of the Ages or Negura's Om? I must think those two gems just come to life when baked. (Granted, I know most music differs depending on your state of mind, but there are these particular albums that just seem to be 'inadvertently' designed for the stoner experience.)

 

[En Vind Av Sorg]

Anything by Negura really, especially the latest two.

 

[Demilich]

well, how's this for inadvertently?

I never got around to checking out Negura's Om until a week or so ago. I've listened to it three or four times, in a couple of vastly different states of mind, and I must say - straight or otherwise, this is one of the best albums I've heard in a long time!
Diverse, vast, expansive, really fucking heavy at times... perfect for this time of year!

Was it ever released on vinyl?

 

[JayKeeley]

well, how's this for inadvertently?

I never got around to checking out Negura's Om until a week or so ago. I've listened to it three or four times, in a couple of vastly different states of mind, and I must say - straight or otherwise, this is one of the best albums I've heard in a long time!
Diverse, vast, expansive, really fucking heavy at times... perfect for this time of year!

Was it ever released on vinyl?

I don't know about a vinyl release, but I'm glad you like it. It's going to be one of those albums that people will be talking about several years from now just because it'll take years for it to be fully appreciated.