Opponents of Capital Punishment, this guy is a victim of society right?

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Give me one reason why this guy deserves anything more than a 5 min trial?



PURCELL, Okla. - The man accused of killing a 10-year-old neighbor girl for an elaborate plan to eat human flesh joked about cannibalism on his online diary, discussed the effects of not taking his anti-depression medication and mentioned "dangerously weird" fantasies.
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All he wanted in life, Kevin Ray Underwood wrote in his blog, was "to be able to live like a normal person."

People who knew Underwood described him Sunday as a quiet, "boring" and seemingly trustworthy young man. His mother who lived across town called him a "wonderful boy."

"This is something that I don't know where it came from," Connie Underwood said of her son through tears in a brief telephone interview with The Associated Press. "I would like to be able to tell her family how sorry we are. I just feel so terrible."

Kevin Underwood, a 26-year-old grocery store stocker in this small community 40 miles south of Oklahoma City, was arrested Friday. Investigators searched his apartment after he aroused their suspicions at a checkpoint, and found a large plastic tub in a bedroom closet. According to a police affidavit, he confessed that he killed Jamie Rose Bolin, telling
FBI agents: "Go ahead and arrest me. She is in there. I chopped her up."

Jamie's unclothed body was inside the tub, along with a towel used to soak up blood, officials said. Police said that, while there were deep saw marks on the girl's neck, she had not been dismembered.

Kevin Underwood, who is to be formally charged with first-degree murder Monday, lived alone in an apartment downstairs from the one where Jamie lived with her father.

Authorities believe Kevin Underwood killed the girl Wednesday, when she disappeared after going to a library, by beating and smothering her.

Investigators found meat tenderizer and barbecue skewers that he planned to use on the body, McClain County District Attorney Tim Kuykendall said.

On his blog, an online diary that he had kept since September 2002, Kevin Underwood described himself as "single, bored, and lonely, but other than that, pretty happy."

He mentions cannibalism, asking "If you were a cannibal, what would you wear to dinner?" and responding: "The skin of last night's main course."

In an entry dated Feb. 4, 2006, Kevin Underwood wrote that he struggled with depression and social interaction.

"Pretty much the only time I believe in God is when I blame him for something," he said. "Or, when I'm really depressed, to cry and beg him to make me better, to make whatever is wrong in my brain go away, so that I can live like a normal person.

"That's all I want in life, is to be able to live like a normal person."

He wrote that he rarely left his apartment for long stretches, except to go to work and to buy food. "I just sit here at the computer every minute of the day, when I'm not at work. A week or so ago, I spent my day off sitting here at the computer, barely moving from the chair, for 14 hours."

He said one of his main interests was the online role-playing game "Kingdom of Loathing," in which stick figures battle one another.

In September 2004, he wrote that his depression deepened after several months without taking the medication Lexapro, an antidepressant also used in the treatment of anxiety disorders.

"For example, my fantasies are just getting weirder and weirder. Dangerously weird," he wrote. "If people knew the kinds of things I think about anymore, I'd probably be locked away. No probably about it, I know I would be."

Kevin Underwood worked for nearly seven years at a Carl's Jr. restaurant, where shift leader Bill Verdan described him as a quiet person who kept to himself. "He did a good job," Verdan said Sunday.

However, he said Kevin Underwood, who quit about a year ago, was a "boring" man who rarely smiled.

"Just his tone of voice, he just sounded dull," Verdan said. "Trying to get a smile out of him took an act of Congress."

Verdan said he and his wife and young daughters never suspected anything unusual.

"He gave my wife rides home from work numerous times," Verdan said. "We never felt uncomfortable. I talked to my girls after this happened, and they said they felt comfortable around him."

His most recent job was as a stocker at a Griders Discount Foods grocery store in Oklahoma City, where he arrived early for his shift Friday, said a manager at the store, Jerry Castro.

"He was the same as always," Castro said. "He was quiet and kept to himself. He didn't interact with people. It just didn't dawn on you that this was something he'd do."
 
I wish we didnt live in a society full of sissies. This is a perfect case for the use of medieval torture devices. Reportedly the child's last words were "I'm Sorry". Poor kid thought she did something wrong.
 
That's fucked up......

I still say throw him to the inmates. I wouldn't want a murder on my conscience, and this way they handle it, taxpasyers don't have to waste anymore of their money on this waste of space.

I question ANYONE who says they have no problem with killing people, I wonder about those folks. :lol:
 
Papa Josh said:
I question ANYONE who says they have no problem with killing people, I wonder about those folks. :lol:

His right of being called a "person" became void the second he took an innocent life. I wouldn't mind seeing him get a life sentence. But only if he was repeatedly brutalized by other cons. See the prisons protect these scumbags from the rest of the flock. They get celled in a special ward where they don't have to come out and "play". I really would love to see his fate involve his end trails getting wrapped around a big gigantic black bowboski. But sadly, I don't think it's meant to be. :mad:
 
i really just want to hear a killer say "I did it because I wanted to" instead of all this blame-it-on-mom-for-touching-my-pee-pee or having some lawyer come up with an excuse as to how once when some guy skinned his knee on the playground he became insane.

at least Albert Fish had balls...he admitted children taste good
 
Underwear said:
"I just sit here at the computer every minute of the day, when I'm not at work. A week or so ago, I spent my day off sitting here at the computer, barely moving from the chair, for 14 hours."

Somebody search Erik's cupboards!!!
 
I support the death penalty. I also support swift justice. And in this case, I support both. However, I do think there needs to be some sort of federal, minimum standard set for using the death penalty. Let's face it, that government is incompetent on all levels; federal, state, city. To think that they're going to get the right guy, everytime, is just silly.

Zod
 
I am an opponent of the death penalty, but I am a huge supporter of lifetime inprisonment, and I am a supporter of taking away "prisoners rights". Away with the TVs, fancy foods and all the fluff. Basically, making prisoners cost the government as little as bloody possible.
 
Crimson Velvet said:
I am an opponent of the death penalty, but I am a huge supporter of lifetime inprisonment, and I am a supporter of taking away "prisoners rights".

Yeah, I guess I agree. As long as prison actually served as a genuine punishment for criminals, if I was faced with the choice of a lifetime in prison or being executed, the latter seems more appealing to me. Obviously supporters of the death penalty are after serious retribution, so if prison actually served as a harsh punishment, and people who got "life sentences" were actually locked up for life, would you guys who support the death penalty still support it?

And this guy OBVIOUSLY has some seriously mental health problems. And no, I'm not excusing him as a "victim of society", but he is clearly in need of some psychological help, as well as incarceration.
 
lets say the the guy was mentally ill
there are a lot of people walking around doing themselves and others harm
that can quite obviously not deal with life and should be in secure treatment, theyre not because the system does fail, sick people are cast aside into a life of paranoia and fear, its a wonder more people aren't killed

its fucking serious
and saying string em all up is just a step further in the failure

...that said, if anyone harmed a hair on my boys head I'd kick the fucking life out of them
 
I don't really understand what's the point of this thread, I doubt the only arguments opposants of capital punishment have is "murderers are a victim of society" In my case I think there are worse punishment than death but I would say let's torture this guy until he begs for death.