Original Dokken Lineup Reunites!! (Yes WITH Lynch!)

[KingsGene]

DOKKEN - FAN-FILMED VIDEO FROM OSAKA REUNION SHOW POSTED

 

[Stevie WOnder]

From the clips I watched, Pilson and Mick are the only two that got the memo that this was a live show and not a sound check. Don and George both appear completely disengaged.

Oh, and Don sounds awful, but that's been the case for years.

Dear god... I didn't think he sucked that much. While Lynch doesn't look very happy to be there, I have nothing to say about his playing.

Dokken sucked bad when I saw him open for Whitesnake and Scorpions something like 10 years ago but never as bad as this. Poor people who paid to see this...

 

[Azrael LenGraden]

They were filming that U.S. show for a possible DVD...

 

[Stevie WOnder]

They were filming that U.S. show for a possible DVD...

So that would be a rehearsal, Dokken is saving his voice for future shows and they'd put that specific rehearsal on a DVD? Doesn't work. His voice is shot, period.

 

[KingsGene]

DOKKEN - FAN-FILMED VIDEO FROM LOUD PARK 16 POSTED

The setlist was as follows:

"Kiss of Death"
"The Hunter"
"Dream Warriors"
"Don't Close Your Eyes"
"When Heaven Comes Down"
"Breaking the Chains"
"Into the Fire"
"Alone Again"
"Mr. Scary"
"It's Not Love"
"In My Dreams
"Tooth and Nail"

 

[Stevie WOnder]

He unexpectedly damaged his voice during said rehearsal show, he was saving it, ultimately in vain it would appear. His voice isn't "shot" by any measure of the imagination though.

I admire you're being a fan but you shouldn't try to defend the undefendable... I've played a couple more songs from their shows in Japan since then, it's as horrible... He keeps ditching all the high notes and even some midrange. He has absolutely no power.

Go listen to Dee Snyder or Bruce Dickinson for example. They might not have the voice they had when they were 20 but they can still belch it out. Dokken isn't even trying. Is he keeping his voice for the old folks house?

 

[KingsGene]

DOKKEN POST 2016 UNLEASHED IN THE EAST TOUR "THANK YOU" VIDEO

 

[Stevie WOnder]

It's not even about being a fan, it's about analyzing his voice as it is. I agree, his performances in Japan were awful. What about him damaging his voice during rehearsal don't you understand? Not to mention he's obviously disinterested in a reunion with the joker who's relentlessly shit talked him ad nauseam like an ass for 20 years.

I don't buy the rehearsal incident. As I said before, he already sounded bad something like more than 10 years ago. He's probably still smoking, it's not like it's helping. If he damaged his voice then take care of it. Rest for a while, take lessons, whatever but don't make people pay for music you can't sing anymore. As I said, I can understand that he wouldn't hit the high notes but he's not even trying for the mid-range stuff. It's like he's mumbling the words on the same note.

Dickinson was loosing his voice at one point and he really took care of it since then. No, he doesn't sing like he's still 30 years old but he sounds pretty good and can hit most of the high notes. Have you heard John Bush lately? Biff from Saxon? Even Hetfield? Besides Bush who's a force of nature who's still pitch perfect after all these years, they all changed the way they're singing and ditching some highs but you can still recognize the melodies.

You keep listening to him singing nowadays as much as you want, I'm done. You probably pardon that kind of stuff more easily than me.

 

[labrekk]

It's not even about being a fan, it's about analyzing his voice as it is. I agree, his performances in Japan were awful. What about him damaging his voice during rehearsal don't you understand? Not to mention he's obviously disinterested in a reunion with the joker who's relentlessly shit talked him ad nauseam like an ass for 20 years.

He was really interested in cashing the huge money they were offered though... Be a pro, and at least pretend you're happy to be on the stage, even though your voice is long gone....

 

[labrekk]

I don't buy the rehearsal incident. As I said before, he already sounded bad something like more than 10 years ago. He's probably still smoking, it's not like it's helping. If he damaged his voice then take care of it. Rest for a while, take lessons, whatever but don't make people pay for music you can't sing anymore. As I said, I can understand that he wouldn't hit the high notes but he's not even trying for the mid-range stuff. It's like he's mumbling the words on the same note.

Dickinson was loosing his voice at one point and he really took care of it since then. No, he doesn't sing like he's still 30 years old but he sounds pretty good and can hit most of the high notes. Have you heard John Bush lately? Biff from Saxon? Even Hetfield? Besides Bush who's a force of nature who's still pitch perfect after all these years, they all changed the way they're singing and ditching some highs but you can still recognize the melodies.

You keep listening to him singing nowadays as much as you want, I'm done. You probably pardon that kind of stuff more easily than me.

I would add Joe Lynn Turner to the list of aging singers who still do great. At 65, he's 2 years older than Dokken and still sings great live.

Another one, younger though at 56, is Doogie White. The guy is a real trooper. Performs great every night, sings in a million bands/projects, and never uses a teleprompter... What a memory!

Joey Belladonna, 56, still has plenty of power too. Blackie Lawless (60), as well.

Bob Catley, 69, is not what he used to be, but still is so much better live than Dokken... Even Rob Halford (65) and Ian Gillan (71), which are both shadows of what they once were, are still able to perform just fine on stage most of the times, having changed their way singing.

Don Dokken should retire, he's embarrassing himself on the stage... Of course, IMO...

 

[labrekk]

He was interested in cashing the check. Which he's been clear and open about from the start. I agree, he should've at least made an attempt to pretend, but he's been very clear that he's doing this to make money and simply to put to rest the demand for the original band. Also, for the eight trillionth time, his voice is not "long gone". Considering he's been performing classic Dokken songs in their original key and hitting all the notes, albeit not as forcefully as originally, I'd say his voice is anything but "gone".

"Hitting all the notes" ??? Never in a million years... In the multitude of videos I checked in the last couple years at least...

 

[labrekk]

OK, you found the one song he sang fine. Congrats.

 

[labrekk]

Dreams Warriors? Are you kidding? Vocals are flat as hell... And this song needs the high parts, which he doesn't even try anymore. Stop singing this Don... As Halford should stop trying to sing Painkiller...

 

[labrekk]

Flat? Are you tonedeaf? He doesn't go ultra high, but flat? That's horseshit and you should know it if you know a single thing about singing.

He doesn't go high, so surely not ultra high... Maybe I'm tonedeaf... But you like your Don quite a bit, don't you?

 

[Sir Exar Kun]

Don's bass players have been covering for his lack of range for years now. The BETTER vocals are routinely from them, whether it's Jeff Pilson (who is a solid singer, check out War & Peace) or Mark Boals in his brief stint.... Don is very smart about hiring musicians who can make up for his inadequacies.

Again, though, this has much less to do with where his voice is today (damaged recently or otherwise) and more about the lack of any amount of effort at doing something for the people who made his ass famous in the first place. I'd much rather see flat Don with Pilson covering, but acting genuinely THANKFUL, than the sham of a show they put on.

 

[KingsGene]

DOKKEN Reunion Tour 'Was Very, Very Drama-Free,' Says JEFF PILSON

FOREIGNER BASSIST JEFF PILSON ON HIS TIME IN DOKKEN - “THAT WAS THE BEST EDUCATION YOU COULD EVER POSSIBLY GET, AND I’LL ALWAYS BE VERY, VERY GRATEFUL FOR THAT... THAT WAS AN AMAZING EXPERIENCE”

GEORGE LYNCH On DOKKEN Reunion: 'A Lot Of The Fans Were Really Moved By Seeing Us Together Again'

Classic Lineup Of DOKKEN is 'Talking About' Playing More Shows In 2018, Says GEORGE LYNCH

GEORGE LYNCH On New DOKKEN Song: 'It's Not Us Trying To Reinvent Ourselves Or Pretend We Are In The '80s'

GEORGE LYNCH Says DOKKEN Wasn't Properly Prepared For Last Fall's Reunion Tour

DON DOKKEN Says There Are No Plans To Play More Shows With Classic Lineup Of DOKKEN

DOKKEN - LIVE ALBUM WITH THREE NEW STUDIO TRACKS COMING IN EARLY 2018, SAYS GEORGE LYNCH

DON DOKKEN On Possibility Of Tour From Classic Lineup Of DOKKEN: 'I Just Really Don't See The Point Of Doing It'

DON DOKKEN - "MY BAND KICKED ASS AT M3 FESTIVAL 2017, AND THAT REMINDED ME WHY THERE'S NO REASON TO DO A DOKKEN REUNION TOUR"

DOKKEN'S CLASSIC LINEUP TO RELEASE RETURN TO THE EAST LIVE (2016) IN APRIL; ARTWORK REVEALED

DOKKEN TO RELEASE RETURN TO THE EAST LIVE 2016 IN APRIL; DETAILS REVEALED, VIDEO TRAILER STREAMING

 

[KingsGene]

DOKKEN DEBUT "IN MY DREAMS" LIVE VIDEO



DOKKEN BASSIST JEFF PILSON TALKS POSSIBILITY OF NEW STUDIO ALBUM WITH ORIGINAL BAND LINE-UP - "THE DEMAND IS STILL THERE AND SHOWS NO SIGN OF LETTING UP"

Bassist JEFF PILSON Talks 2016 Reunion Tour Of Classic DOKKEN Line-Up - "If That Was The Last Thing We Ever Do, It Was A Great Way To Go Out"

 

[KingsGene]

GEORGE LYNCH Confirms One-Off Show With DOKKEN At M3 Festival 2019, Talks Possible Album With Classic Line-Up - "The More Time Goes By, The Less It Matters"

GEORGE LYNCH On Possibility Of Recording A New DOKKEN Album - "I Want To Do That Because I Want To Put That Other Boookend On The Shelf" (Audio)

DON DOKKEN And GEORGE LYNCH Talk Possibility Of More DOKKEN Reunion Shows - "The Four Of Us Are Alive; It's Based On Opportunity"

JEFF PILSON Talks Possibility Of Recording New DOKKEN Album - "The Desire Is There; I Think We'd All Love To Make A Final Record Together"